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Im dropping my pick!
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ToddK
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Im dropping my pick!
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So ive decided to drop my pick, and start playing conventional style. Im now working fulltime at a "normal" (non-music) job, and im also studying to get my certification in legal/medical transcription. The economic melt down has killed all my music work. No more students, gigs, or studio work. It's all dried up. So now, guitar will be just for fun in the little spare time i have now. So i figure it would be fun to go ahead and go conventional. I'll be starting from scratch. Im not afraid of the down time, since guitar is no longer my central existance. Just figured some of you would be interested to know that. If and when i have any time, i'll upload my progress when i can. Im sure it'll be fun, cause now you guys can totally rip on me, and tell me all the things im doing wrong, and need to work on. I should be sucking pretty bad for quite some time. Florian will have a field day, it'll be great Wish me luck! TK
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Date Dec. 14 2008 2:20:55
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Ron.M
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From: Scotland
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RE: Im dropping my pick! (in reply to ToddK)
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Hi Todd, I would reckon maybe the biggest problem would be re-training your index finger, since it's probably been quite redundant compared to your other fingers. I like your pick style stuff very much. Even though it may have made some techniques very awkward, it also opened up a number of possibilities and ideas not readily available to finger style players. Even before I'd ever heard of you, I mentioned on the FT Forum that I reckoned a lot of Flamenco could be played pick style, since I tend to play a lot of thumb only falsetas and even like thumb stuff on the high strings. I tend to use arpegio etc just as "fill ins" as you hear in more traditional stuff. So I was totally blown away when you demonstrated just how far you could go with this!! Of course, these days, with complex modern stuff the fingers are highly independent often taking the "lead" line, with the thumb just providing bass accomp (as in classical) and arpegios providing strong rhythm etc (Gerardo). Anyway, IMO, a major part of Flamenco guitar is knowing "what" to do as well as "how" to do. So you're off to a head start there! Definitely worth trying for a while anyway. I've seen Antonio Forcione in concert a few times and he switches between both techniques (even in the same piece!)....transferring the pick to between his lips while he does certain passages finger style! cheers, Ron
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Date Dec. 14 2008 3:24:26
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Ron.M
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From: Scotland
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RE: Im dropping my pick! (in reply to Arash)
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f..ck the banks and the crisis they caused Yeah Arash, Earlier this year I moved our modest Building Society savings account which had lapsed from a headline 5.00% pa and had silently fallen to 1.8% over the year, without any written notification, to their online account, which again boasted 5.00% per annum. The Bank of England recently dropped their interest rate to 3.00%, the lowest it has been in 50 years....meanwhile on checking our Internet account, I see that they've lowered their interest rate to 2.00% automatically, and again without notification. Meanwhile, they have raised their borrowing rate to almost 5.00% It's no wonder that when the taxpayer bailed them out and gave them hundreds of billions of pounds to lend back to us, that the very first thing they were interested in was in giving themselves massive bonuses to celebrate the fact that they were still in business! Also the small pension I was expecting has dropped by about 40% Pop the champagne there Old Chap what?? Governments don't control banks. Banks control Governments IMO. cheers, Ron
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Date Dec. 14 2008 12:03:00
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Im dropping my pick! (in reply to ricecrackerphoto)
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I think some of u guys are looking at this all wrong, think about him for a second and the real world and not about getting him to like you or appearing politicaly correct to him or looking nice.....i think its great that hes droping his pick for his own sake...noone will ever be able to take anything away from him after, weather its politicaly correct or not...he will get ride of the Yes But, might not be fair but its a reality, some might not tell you but its there "Yes But"....weather its me or someone else...if i ever took anything away from you it was only in a midlle of an argument when we were both giving it and taking it... it wasent so much your pick that made people pick on it it was your comments and its allways an eazy target....but the truth is you are doing yourself a favour i belive..there will be absoluteley nothing anybody can denie you about after.. even if none of us here ever denied you anything because of it.. theres always the chance of the guy in the real world thinking "yes but" this way you take control of the situation...u dont relie on peoples political correctnes or ignorance or knolodge or open mindness... who wants to spend all that time practicing all that time geting it right and in the end u are still relying on other peoples knolodge or ignorance more so then anyone else.... Its eazy to say "i liked it"...dosent cost me anything but at the end of the day its you that it will effect more when its eazyer for some to dismiss you then pay attention because they found an excuse..You are as good as anybody yet people will always be able to rob you of it because of the pick....weather u like it or not, weather is fair or not.. I for one dont see it as a bad thing, i am proud of you, i think its the best thing for you the technique IS just a tool most of the important things you need are allready in you..(if u can hear it in your head u can do it) its not like starting...the compas is there, the musicality is there, the ideas are there, the left hand is there....this is relatively a small thing... Micho had to relearn playing on his leftside or something like that..its just a tool If you doing this for yourself then congratulations i respect the courage..I think you will benefit from it in the long run.. if you are doing it for the wrong reasons...to please others, shut em up then dont be stupid, its your life, they will just find something else to give u a hard time about I know i am kind of contradicting myself but it all depends on how you feel about it regardles of what we had going in the past i am giving you the same advice i would give a best friend if he asked and I was really thinking about him
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Date Dec. 15 2008 5:56:47
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RE: Im dropping my pick! (in reply to ToddK)
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well now we all have faster picado than you anyway good luck, im sure youll be fine though. i think just on your point alone of 'being able to get a good sound easily' its worth the effort to drop the pick. but if you didnt lose the pick thats ok too, who cares. you know what u gotta do now tho dont u? we want a ceremonius burning of the pick/s (upload some footage of it please)i reckon youd get to your favourite pick and just snap, 'noooooooooooooo.....not the 0.73mm....nooooooooooooo. did you think of maybe a support group to help, just so you know u not not alone thru this. pickaholics anonymus is always there for you man
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Date Dec. 15 2008 18:43:43
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RE: Im dropping my pick! (in reply to Guest)
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....... been ten days now, havent touched a pick....im going crazy....people looking at me funny...what do they want from me???!!!... make them go away, please just make them stop.....(one eye twichting irradically, and in featal position)
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Date Dec. 15 2008 18:46:45
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