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What Happened to the El Tempul Challenge?
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Exitao
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 RE: What Happened to the El Tempul C... (in reply to val)
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ORIGINAL: val
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How about a Monthly Challenge? Every month (or two) a Foroflamenco Board of Commissioners (a bunch of knowledgeable people) select a falseta that we learn
How about setting the challenge to be within the reach of beginners and the wannabes who never quite get round to practising (sound familiar anyone?). The Board get to post a tab and a sound file (of how it's SUPPOSED to sound) and set a deadline for submission. It might actually motivate people like me to start PLAYING some Flamenco instead of reading about, or listening to it.
Competitors have to sign a contract, with penalties for entrants who fail to post by the deadline. I notice Florian is off the bench - welcome home amigo. I'm sure Florian would be very happy write the penalty clause.
If I look at your post, and Arash's this makes me think that we should have, like, weight classes.
Maybe someone could post a beginner's version, intermediate version, and advanced version of the same piece (or maybe different pieces at different levels, but maybe the same palo).
I like the idea of one piece with three versions, then we could use it as a progressive study.
Also, the judges can tell people when they should move up a weight class. It may be that some people are better than they know... (Or it could be like American Idol, and people will be told to drop a class...)
However, I must say that I'm unsure as to how I'm supposed to feel about the quote:
the wannabes who never quite get round to practising (sound familiar anyone?) statement. Am I supposed to disconnect my webcam when not in use?
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Date Jan. 24 2009 16:53:35
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Florian
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RE: What Happened to the El Tempul C... (in reply to val)
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I notice Florian is off the bench - welcome home amigo.
Hi Val  thank you very much for always 
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There should be a seperate Challenge for these few members and another one for the "rest" of us
The idea of competition, is to push yourself ...if you can allready win it now you havent really gained anything..
We dont wanna get into the whole classes thing ...i know i dont wanna decide for others what classes i think they should be.. people can feel insulted if i get it wrong or others feel will feel intimidated if they choose to compete on a higher class simply because they wanna push themselfs harder....its not for us to determine peoples limitations...it spells nothing but arguments and ignorance on our side if we pressume to tell them what they can and cant do.
for one thing I doubt Grisha will be around for all of this or any of it...he hasent exactly been posting much lately , i assume hes busy with stuff
i say one competition for everyone one class, the idea is the aim higher anyway...or at the most 2 classes...1 beginner - intermediate and class for the rest. (members should decide themselfs wich they wish to compete in )
I think the falsetas should be voted on or we should take turns nominating them or make polls to cover all different tastes..it helps when u learn a falseta you acctualy like yourself and can actualy use...they dont always have to be technically challenging, they can also be musically chalenging, rithmically chalenging, achiving the right feel can be a challenge etc....there should defenetly be the Moraito buleria aire challenge ..
when judging we should disregard as much as possible (equipment quality...audio quality, it has nothing to do with the challenge...ofcourse it will be impossible to ignore all of it, we are human but we should stay concious of the fact that its just logistics, we should try to remain fair and judge only on the current post as much as posible )
i am sure theres other things we should consider and we can decide on it if we decided to go ahead with this...but i think its a good idea..sometimes its hard to find the motivation unless you are preparing for something...everyone would benefit from this.
i vote a challenge every 2 months as more doable...1 month goes by very very fast it will be eazy to get confused, etc..
but anyway this is just some of my opinions, everyone should vote for themselfs
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Date Jan. 24 2009 18:28:26
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Exitao
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RE: What Happened to the El Tempul C... (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)
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Flo:
When you look at books of repertoire, there's usually beginner, intermediate and advanced material.
I don't see how there's any harm in labelling it as such. Definitely, those of you guys who play professionally, should probably be in your own (advanced) category. Maybe Grisha's suggestion should be for the advanced players, y'all can change the arrangement.
Then again, maybe if people vote, it should be based on criteria, which totals up to a score, but people can also win for most creative, or expressive (duende?), or best technical...
There's a difference between being challenged by a piece and setting yourself up for failure. The way I see it, more people would likely be advised to try for harder levels than to try something easier. I doubt anyone would be unkind. Except when we talk about you, Flo.
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Date Jan. 24 2009 19:51:27
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