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edgar884

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Spanish Party 

Well I had to do a private party last night, I had now Idea what it was about.

They heard of me through a local music store that gets me lots of referals and gigs students ect: I soon found that this was a birthday party for a 91 year old man named Merill Matzinger who studied from Ramon Montoya. There where many people there who had played in younger years, most of them where in there late 60s and 70s.

I also met a man, Robert who studied from Sabicas himself, he said that Sabicas always played guitar and if he wasn't he was at the race track or playing cards.
He said Sabicas turned to rubber without his guitar and would just sit in the corner.

This party was very inspiring and emotional none the less. I was excepted with warm arms and every one asked who I have studied from, Mariano Manzella, Humberto Sales and Chuscales of course.

I wanted to share this story, for me it's a lot of work to try and play Flamenco and keep it in a responsible interpretation. I talked to Robert (sorry forgot his last name), after the show and he said hes to old to realy play anymore but he was very kind and said we can hang out soon and talk Flamenco and he's going to give me some old recordings of Sabicas and Ramon Montoya and teach me what ever he can.

As you can guess I am very excited about this, to meet someone who has lived in spain and is willing to share what he knows with me.

I feel that I have the tools for the next level but it's hard without the right teacher.
I wish I could study from people like Ricardo or Todd even though he is a --- well lets just say that Todd realy got me thinking and I wish I knew where to begin to get to this next level.

I'm saving to go to spain next. But until then I hope this Robert will be as good as everyone says, he touched my guitar and strummed it for a second and said it was a beautiful box, but he seemed to be in pain, so I didn't persit.

Everyone at the party said Robert was a monster on the guitar, all you have to do is give him some gin and a guitar and he will play for you.

So I can't wait to hear of more of his stories and learn more about Flamenco.

Which is what Flamenco is all about, finding God through music instead of angels and Religion.

One more concert next week, and I will have time to post more.


Thanx guys,

P.S. I'll see if I can upload a song of this 91 year old mans playing when he was younger, They were giving out CDs of his at his birthday party.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 9 2006 13:51:21
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

Edgar,
exciting! I'm glad you are looking to really dive in and make this thing a true part of you. I think you have the dedication and the love to do it! Better watch out, there is a point where they may not be turning back...

Very fortunate to find people with a flamenco background where you live.

If you follow Todd's instructions exactly, you will attain all your goals, my friend. My dos pesatas :)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 9 2006 14:38:16
 
Ricardo

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RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

I don't know if you read music Edgar, but there is an excellent transcription book of Ramon Montoya. It is very interesting to see how much of his music lives on, just little ideas. Sabicas played a lot of his faletas note for note, as did PDL, and even Tomatito and Nunez. You are really lucky to find any of those old timers who knew the old masters. It will really help you get the "essence" that the modern players have as a base.

Ricardo
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 9 2006 14:51:33
 
edgar884

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RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

Thanx for replying guys, yes I know Miguel, and Ricardo I do read music.
So I will check that out.

Yo tengo passion por la Flamenca Musica.

Hope I spelled that right.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 9 2006 14:55:07
 
Ricardo

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RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

Yo tengo....Musica Flamenca. Spanish is all backwards.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 9 2006 14:58:12
 
Exitao

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Joined: Mar. 13 2006
From: Vancouver, Canada

RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

And in this case I believe it's para, not por.

I still get caught on por y para but I always feel better when I hear a native speaker make the same mistake.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 10 2006 2:08:18
 
Francisco

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From: SW USA

RE: Spanish Party (in reply to edgar884

Hola Gabriel,
Good to see you back 'round these parts. Congrats on the gig and meeting your new friends. You truely are very fortunate.

I had an almost similar situation. I ran into the guy that sold me my very first guitar (almost 20 years ago ), and he told me about a guy that used to " study in Spain". All he could give me was his name. Through much searching, I found a phone number, and gave him a call. Unfortuanately, his wife told me he had suffered a stroke a couple of years ago, and no longer plays/teaches, and in fact, can barely carry a conversation! Bummer!!!

I did find another potential teacher, but he lives about a 5hr drive away in Alb. NM. Gonna teach me how to acc. baile...hopefully

saludos
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 10 2006 4:17:59
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