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Romanza

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Not flamenco - not interested!!

Hi guys. I was just wondering how people feel about other kinds of music and how much flamenco they listen to compared to other musical styles.

I ask because I have noticed that since I 'discovered' flamenco a year or so again I have slowly but surely stopped listening to all other kinds of music. I cant even listen to the radion for more than a few minutes without starting to crave hit of flamenco! My record collection is gradually being overtaken by Spanish cds. And if I'm not listening to flamenco I only seem to be interested in alternative or world music, Cuban, Salsa or something with a bit of passion and life.

Music I used to like, rock, pop etc just sounds woefully inadequate, the voices pathetic, the lyrics infantile! Now when I look at the over the top posturing of 'rock guitarists' on tele I feel nothing but scorn and even pity that they do not understand the true beauty of the guitar!! What is happening?? Has anyone else experienced this? Will I ever listen to anything else again???

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 9:38:41

henrym3483

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

i respect all types of music, love the delta blues and trad irish music, i listen to them all as well as flamenco. though i have made the choice to study flamenco guitar exclusively for the next few years, as its the only type of guitar playing i really want to be good at.

that being said i usualy dont' got through the day without listening to one piece of por bulerias, but thats cause im trying to learn this rythmn by constant exposure to it.

god help me.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 9:45:55

XXX

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

Exactly, I feel the same.

I bothered long about it, but now I came to the conclusion its not so important to hear every kind of music. Why should it be?
Just hear what u like.

Ps: My "need" for classical music, which I dont hear as often as flamenco though, has not been replaced by flamenco at all.
Sometime I will put the Janis Joplin CD back on, Im pretty shure

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 9:55:28

John O.

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

The more I play, the less I listen to flamenco unless I'm looking for new influences. I'll listen to anything extreme or aggressive that gives me a kick - metal, hip hop, free-jazz, or anything that gives me that insane rush like flamenco can. If I'm in a really strange mood I'll listen to Bowie's 1.Outside, for example.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 11:52:17

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

No, not for me, I have gone through only flamenco phases but I keep looking for other things. I studied classical for a year or so, now I'm into sambas/bossas and a little into old-school jazz. There's just too much great stuff out there for provincialism, at least that's how I feel.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 14:08:32

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

To me, listening to only one type of music is like only eating one type of food... you'll get bored of it eventually, and it might not be healthy.

IMHO diversity is a good thing, and I find I require different musics to suit different moods.

Although I have to admit that I place a strong emphasis on music containing guitars. But most types of music that do feature guitars are cool with me.

And even the ones that don't have a valid time and place.

Jb

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 14:58:06

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

I like everything it just depends what mood i am in, if i am driving i like up tempo, Orishas - Emigrante always does the job, is Rap mixed with Salsa.

Of i am having a romantic night i have something brazilian playing.

If i feel like beeing inspired and wanna learn something or get a new idea il have a flamenco guitar solo cd playing.

If i feel like feeling il listen to cante.

there is so much brilliant music out there besides flamenco its always a hard decision what to listen to.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:01:12

edgar884

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

To appreciate Flamenco and nothing else, is your own taste.

I have found that I listen to a lot of Flamenco but, I still listen to lots of other music.
It helps me with my composing.

I think, music is like 2 pengelium clocks on a wall after a while the pengiliums will be swinging at the same time. So if all you listen to is one kind of music, dont expect to be able to do something original or different when it comes to composing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:07:02

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

In fact, now that I mention it... I can't think of a single musical genre that doesn't have at least one good thing to offer.

Jb

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:13:09

Jon Boyes

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to edgar884)

On my desk I currently have a Camaron CD and the debut album by the Editors.

Both are excellent

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:15:36

Jon Boyes

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JBASHORUN
In fact, now that I mention it... I can't think of a single musical genre that doesn't have at least one good thing to offer.

Rap?

Just kidding, I actually have a few hip hop albums.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:18:17

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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In fact, now that I mention it... I can't think of a single musical genre that doesn't have at least one good thing to offer

Oh i can think of millions :-) I am open minded and give everything a chance but cmon lets face it, theres some crap out there :-)

Like Yoddeling , wtf is that about ? I also dont like aboriginal music, not crasy about death metal, I dont dig Mongolian music, and I dont dig Estonian boybands.

other then that i am pretty open minded

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:22:51

edgar884

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

EVERYTHING BUT COUNTRY PLEASE, AND NO OPERA,

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:24:07

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to edgar884)

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EVERYTHING BUT COUNTRY PLEASE, AND NO OPERA

u would not be saying that if u heard Mongolian rap :-)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:26:55

JBASHORUN

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:31:54

edgar884

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

what is that Florian

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:34:13

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Florian)

quote:

I dont dig Estonian boybands

Well, maybe there is one exception!

But I bet a lot of Estonian teenage girls would dissagree!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:34:29

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

JBASHORUN

Sorry man i didnt mean to offend yoddeling u right....

Anyway i didnt mean yoddeling from Austria i love that one !! thats the really cool stuff , is the one from Germany i dont like

!!

U serious man ? Yoddeling ? ok ok .....sorry

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:35:41

edgar884

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

I remember when I started Flamenco. I didn't listen to anything else for months.

Eventually you clime out of that Flamenco canyon and realize there is other music out there.

JUst not anything as amazing as Flamenco

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:36:58

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

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Sorry man i didnt mean to offend yoddeling u right....

U serious man ? Yoddeling ? ok ok .....sorry

Yep, I'm serious... my mother is Austrian, and we have a few yodelling relatives! Personally, I can't stand yodelling!!! But in Austria there are plenty of traditional people (like old farmers) who appreciate this sort of thing. Gimme a good bulerias anyday, but like I said, a matter of taste.

Jb

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:40:08

Romanza

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to edgar884)

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I remember when I started Flamenco. I didn't listen to anything else for months.

Yes I suspect it may just be quite a long 'honeymoon period' kind of thing..

But from someone who used to pride themselves on their diverse and 'ecletic' musical tastes....I mean, I must have 'Entre dos Aguas' on my MP3 player about 6 times from various albums for god's sake!

I'm not saying I think all other music is 'crap', just that it doesn't really do it for me much at the moment..

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:43:12

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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Personally, I can't stand yodelling

well thats all i was saying too, i just cant stand it, really really cant stand it, but i wasent refering to the Austrian yodelling thats cool !! i was talking more about the German yodelling who use compleatly different keys to yodlle in.

Like instead of going Yodlee yodellee I HYY they go Yodalee Yodalee A HAa witch i hate !! is compleatly wrong.

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JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Florian)

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well thats all i was saying too, i just cant stand it, really really cant stand it, but i wasent refering to the Austrian yodelling thats cool !! i was talking more about the German yodelling who use compleatly different keys to yodlle in.

LOL! OK, OK its cool. But I think Yodelling is a bit like flamenco in a way... there are patterns within the music that only an insider can recognise. To an untrained ear, its just noise, but to those that know its the equivalent of a fandangos...

Or something like that!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:48:50

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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but to those that know its the equivalent of a fandangos

hehe thats obvious

nothing says i am hurting like Yodalee I HIII

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:51:38

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

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But from someone who used to pride themselves on their diverse and 'ecletic' musical tastes....I mean, I must have 'Entre dos Aguas' on my MP3 player about 6 times from various albums for god's sake!

I'm not saying I think all other music is 'crap', just that it doesn't really do it for me much at the moment..

lol, Jacqueline, as another foro member once told me when I was first getting into Flamenco:

"Just dive in, and enjoy the ride!"

Jb

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 15:53:45

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

BTW, Mongolian rap?!!! I didn't know there was such a thing! who are the main guys to look out for?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 16:05:34

Florian

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to JBASHORUN)

IceMilk and Po diddy khan

i dont know, ok i made that one up

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 16:51:46

Ron.M

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Florian)

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nothing says i am hurting like Yodalee I HIII

Actually, Florian...one of the guys to make a really big hit in the UK in the 60's with Yodelling is your fellow Australian, Frank Ifield!

www.frankifield.com

Here's a quote from one of your regional newspapers...

"It was not a conventional funeral - from the slideshow that greeted mourners at the Wahroonga Seventh-Day Adventist Church to the caskets being carried out to a recording of Frank Ifield's Yodelling Mad..."

If you're a fan of yodelling you just gotta listen to "Homesick Blues"

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 20:51:06

JBASHORUN

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

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Actually, Florian...one of the guys to make a really big hit in the UK in the 60's with Yodelling is your fellow Australian, Frank Ifield!

I think there's also a band called Focus, which used yodelling to some degree. one of their hits was called "Hocus Pocus" I think. It actually wasn't that bad for yodelling... surprising what you can do with it when you add some lyrics and guitars.

Jb

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 23 2006 21:02:16

duende

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RE: Not flamenco - not interested!! (in reply to Romanza)

i´d say yodeling and cante go togheter

yooodleee dooodle yooo,,,,,,,,,,or aaay ya ya aaa

Henrik

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