Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
|
|
wood choices for soundboard strutting
|
You are logged in as Guest
|
Users viewing this topic: none
|
|
Login | |
|
benros
Posts: 144
Joined: Aug. 27 2016
|
RE: wood choices for soundboard stru... (in reply to Stephen Eden)
|
|
|
thank you ethan and stephen for your comments. so far in used the cut offs of the soundboard for strutting, which seems reasonable to me (same wood, no waste). my question did come up, because when i worked out my sitka soundboard, i mentioned, that it has a unbelievable springyness (i mean very flexible and stiff at the same time), that i never felt/seen before. the soundboard is 1.9-2.1mm now and still so stiff, that i think i have to work it even thinner and cant imagine that sitka strutting would be a good idea. so i probably go with eurospruce. have you built with sitka so far? if so, what have you used for the struts? is this alien quality normal for this species (i immediately fell in love with it, but dont know if it comes out to stiff for the right hands playability and feel)? greetings, ben
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Nov. 20 2016 19:43:43
|
|
benros
Posts: 144
Joined: Aug. 27 2016
|
RE: wood choices for soundboard stru... (in reply to benros)
|
|
|
thank you all for your responses. probably i havent found the right words, english is not my native tongue. but what i wanted to express was this: it is much more flexible than euro spruce, if you bend it crossgrain (you can bend it more) and springs back with much more power, if you let it go. compared to an highgrade light euro spruce top which a friend of mine worked on at the same time, this top was at 2mm exactly the same weight than the euro (122gr. with soundhole cut out). anyway, in the meantime i found out, that sitka for flamenco tops was already discussed in this forum and that some of the members here (anders, vince) had build guitars with it, that they really liked. would be interesting what they (the lovers, not the haters) used for the struts... greetings, ben p.s.: my judgement about the different properties of sitka and euro doesnt meant to be general, since i havent touched enough of either of both to generalize. just my impression after examining and comparing some really high quality (aaa) euro spruce and relatively low grade sitka tops (a).
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Nov. 21 2016 19:32:05
|
|
benros
Posts: 144
Joined: Aug. 27 2016
|
RE: wood choices for soundboard stru... (in reply to estebanana)
|
|
|
thank you, stephen and anders, for your comments, it seems as if sitka is not the best choice for a rooky builder. anyway i will give it a try and will see! stephen, do you mean, that you had to thin it down alot more than you thought, to make it sound sweet? im at 1,8-2,0 mm now and it still feels like i can take off some more. anders, what you say about sitka characteristics is exactly what i tried to express. i love the aesthetics and feel of this wood and so far it feels good. i hope it turns out well, cause sitka in a grade quality in my eyes is much more beautiful and better (in terms of thightness and eveness of years, stiffness and straight long grains) than aaa grade euro spruce at my sources and costs only one third if it. greetings, ben
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Nov. 25 2016 21:51:28
|
|
Anders Eliasson
Posts: 5780
Joined: Oct. 18 2006
|
RE: wood choices for soundboard stru... (in reply to benros)
|
|
|
quote:
The Sitka I used, not that good, but it should have had a better cross bend that is stiffer than its normal characteristics, more like Englemann spruce, which is a much better tone wood, IMHO. The thinner I made it the more pliable across the grain it became. This favored a more steely treble but didn't have much inner dimensional or vowel tone quality. Tom, its not clear if you are talking about your use of Sitka as a soundboard or as a bracing material. IMHO, Bracing is about weight versus longitudional stiffness and thats about it. Not much mistery there. And finally, my experience is that some builders are better at using some materials than others. And the first thing that matters is actually just believing it´ll work. Not everyone likes working with Cedar as a top wood. Actually, some dont like it and Sitka is just the same. I´ve tried very good guitars with both woods, so I know that if I build a guitar with that wood and it turns out to be worse than a guitar with Euro Spruce, then its just because I wasnt good enough.
_____________________________
Blog: http://news-from-the-workshop.blogspot.com/
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Nov. 27 2016 16:08:39
|
|
New Messages |
No New Messages |
Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
Locked w/ New Messages |
Locked w/o New Messages |
|
Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts
|
|
|
Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET |
0.078125 secs.
|