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etta
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RE: double top flamencos (in reply to jshelton5040)
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In regard to guitar longevity; I have owned and played a flamenco guitar since 1959. I have never had one completely fall apart. And, the nomex double tops (I have two), speak to me with authority and accuracy and much beauty beyond any previous guitars I have owned. Yes, I could listen to guitars on a PA system, or even headphones, but I want to hear and feel their pulsations and creations of sound live and in my face; that is the essence of a guitar, or any acoustic musical instrument. They both have spruce tops, rather conventional bracing, five fan braces and lattice bridge plates. They seem stout as hell, and have survived blistering heat and freezing cold, dryness and humidity extremes, without a hitch. They may suffer lamination problems or whatever, but at my age, I want the best responsive guitar I can own; it will surely outlast me. Traditionalist will and should question all the new innovations in guitar structure. That is a valuable and useful contribution, but time changes everything.
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Date Nov. 28 2016 2:51:04
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Echi
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RE: double top flamencos (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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I got out my cedar/cypress 1967 1a Ramirez blanca night before last. I was impressed once again by its loudness and brilliance. It hasn't had as much action since I got my Arcangel Fernandez blanca, but it saw plenty of playing for 33 years before that. The flamenco Ramirez guitars I could try were not particularly powerful. IMHO they were nice sounding and with a bold, round note but the transient was quite soft and the whole sound not particularly projecting. As I said, I can speak just for the guitars I tried, but I for one would't define the Ramirez as a powerful flamenco guitar. Even my '82 cedar Gerundino, has a kind of dark round tone which I found nice at home, but a little frustrating on stage when you want to push the guitar.. .but I openly admit that maybe it's just me. It's just a matter of tastes. @John Shelton Many people made trials by gluing plates of different materials (carbon, balsa, different kind of fabric etc) to the top but the advantage of nomex seems to be the whole 3d structure, and particularly the air between the sandwich. Ross Gutmeier once used to glue carbon fibre to cedar, but I think he stopped to do so, and probably there is a reason. Also other people like Robert Ruck or Friederich Holtier used to make all wood double top but eventually turned to use nomex. The dealer of Dammann in USA said he is now using a different secret core, but I don't know more about it and don't entrust so much these kind of infos. A lluthier in Italy posted some pictures of his tops made by gluing some silk to the spruce top with hh glue. I never tried, so I can't comment. I read that recently I young fellow made a brilliant violin by reinforcing the top with some spider web, which is among the strongest materials in nature. At the end I agree with Estebana: these things are promising but it's still to prove they can sounds the people like
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