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Ramon Amira

 

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Do musicians live longer? 

Think about these famous musicians – Vladimir Horowitz was performing in his nineties; Arthur Rubinstein in his nineties; Jascha Heifetz died at eighty-six: Yehudi Menuhin in his eighties; there are others, not to mention Segovia himself performing in his nineties.

What got me thinking about it was I was recalling an incident a couple of years ago. I was at Luthier Music, the biggest guitar store in New York, chatting with the owner, Tony Acosta, when he got a phone call. When he finished he said to me, “That was Juan de la Mata. Do you know him?”

I was astounded. Did I know him? Juan was my first teacher, of both flamenco and classical guitar. But that was in the seventies, and Juan was clearly already a middle-aged man at the time. I naturally assumed he was long dead. But no – Tony told me Juan was alive and well and ninety-two years old.

By strange chance, not much afterward I was talking to Beverly Maher, the owner of The Guitar Salon, and I mentioned that Juan was still alive. She told me she had recently spoken to Juan, and he had told her that he had stopped playing the guitar. When she asked him why he said, “I’ve been playing the guitar for eighty-five years!”

As far as I know Juan is still alive, and would be ninety-five.

So stay in practice and live to a hundred.

Ramon

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 24 2013 22:54:14
 
tele

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I would say that many look especially younger. About how long they live, I have no idea

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 25 2013 8:23:18
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

Well, since musicians tend not to be working construction on high rises or fighting fires or getting shot at for a living, perhaps there is something to that.

But when I think of the subset of musicians called "flamencos", I don't think of longevity.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 26 2013 16:58:50
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/living-longer-learning-musical-instrument-protects-brain-memory/story?id=15482696#.UaJCAJzYt0M

http://healthyliving.msn.com/health-wellness/aging/musicians-brains-might-have-an-edge-on-aging

Then again, i think some "unhealthy" activities of many musicians may neutralize the advantages.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 26 2013 17:14:54
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

But when I think of the subset of musicians called "flamencos", I don't think of longevity.


Quick cross-reference to the thread (the last two or three postings) "About to Quit the Smoke," concerning smoking and flamencos.

Cheers,

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 26 2013 17:20:29
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I've often marveled at the same phenomenon, the longevity of many, many musicians. Part of it, probably most of it, must be due to a profoundly satisfying, rewarding way of communicating with other people. Yet, when one contrasts those whose role is almost entirely performance with those who are/were the great composers, the contrast is striking. When one considers that, with few exceptions, the great composers were also prodigious instrumentalists--Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Bartok--very few lived to be even 70, with many dying in their early 60s, and others even earlier. Liszt stands out, as does Saint-Saens and a few others, but between the stress of composing and our old friend syphilis, many of the rest were harvested early.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 26 2013 23:37:08
 
n85ae

 

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

Flamenco guitar players are often smokers, and they kick the bucket in their
mid sixties or earlier from lung cancer a lot. It's not rocket science to figure
that one out.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 27 2013 4:13:58
 
el carbonero

 

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

do you think moraito,enrique de melchor,niño miguel,parrilla de jerez.....live longer??

and i dont speak about cantaor...and other style,morrison,hendrix,parker and the long list

This theory is stupid,it's depend how do you live,
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 27 2013 12:30:44
 
runner

 

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to el carbonero

Carbonero, I think you're right--that how you live is the key determinant. I think my notion about the longevity of performers vs. composers may be valid only in the area of classical musicians. A hypothesis would be that performers (of classical music) receive so much satisfaction from their art that use of drugs, nicotine, alcohol, and the development of unhealthful habits just don't find root in their psyches, and they are therefore more immune. Composers, as tortured souls, not so much.....
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 27 2013 13:40:16
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I suspect that doing work that you love is very healthy, especially for the heart, whereas the stress of a job that you don't love is the worst thing for the heart.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 27 2013 13:41:05
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I believe science figured out musicians at least are less vulnerable to get diseases like alzheimer. A specific chemical compound of cannabis is also believed to have a positive effect on alzheimer..... not sure if a combination of the 2 is the perfect remedy to prevent/delay alzheimer .....
or just makes you die before the problem occurs.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 27 2013 20:03:20
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

Mediocre musicians yes. Great amazing god gifted folks die young.

Seriously it's totally bogus argument all around.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 28 2013 13:57:20
 
maltess

 

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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I think it depends of the musician, but in general doing something that you like I guess is good
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2013 8:01:04
 
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RE: Do musicians live longer? (in reply to Ramon Amira

I would say the opposite, considering the lifestyle man musicians have they will be at risk more than the average person, (don't forget the 27 club). But as all things in life its just pure luck.
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