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rickm

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solea

I know the buleria is the state of the art for dancers, but I love the solea's. That what I spend most of my time playing etc. Dont necessarily know why, maybe because its slower, but seems like I can relate better.

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xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: solea (in reply to rickm)

that's not true...
bulerías is special for guitarists, but in dance, there is nothing more difficult than a soleá...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 11 2013 21:37:43

Doitsujin

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RE: solea (in reply to rickm)

...but... who cares about dancers? eh... they like to clomb..either way..bulerias, solea..or just raaandomly..clomb clomb....who cares. :P

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Leñador

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RE: solea (in reply to rickm)

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...but... who cares about dancers? eh... they like to clomb..either way..bulerias, solea..or just raaandomly..clomb clomb....who cares. :P

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BarkellWH

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RE: solea (in reply to rickm)

Solea's are the "mother" of flamenco. They are the deepest of "Cante Jondo." I love Solea's as well, and they are what I most enjoy playing. Of all the palos, if I had to choose one and one only to play. it would be solea'. In my opinion, it is the most beautiful.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2013 0:39:50

machopicasso

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RE: solea (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

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in dance, there is nothing more difficult than a soleá...

Can you explain why that is? I've just started accompanying a new (and very good) dancer. She mentioned a bunch of palos she wants us to do, but soleá was conspicuously absent. I didn't understand why. I assumed that the slower pace would make it easier. But, then again, there's a lot I don't know about flamenco dance.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2013 10:01:05

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: solea (in reply to machopicasso)

the soleá dance has lots of changes in the tempo...from extremely slow to extremely fast, you have everything...
it's not difficult technically as it is to capture the aire of the palo...
i've been accompanying here for years and noone has ever asked me to accompany por soleá (until last week :))...i only once did soleá in a workshop done by someone from Granada...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 12 2013 10:11:04

machopicasso

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RE: solea (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

Thanks for clarifying. That's helpful.

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i've been accompanying here for years and noone has ever asked me to accompany por soleá (until last week :))

Curiously, are you currently in Budapest? If so, what's the flamenco scene there like? Are you the only flamenco guitarist? Are there many dancers? Just curious...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2013 10:05:38

xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: solea (in reply to machopicasso)

i am...the scene here is really small...
two really good guitarists have moved abroad to make a living, and there are about 3-4 of us left here who play at an acceptable level, but i'm the only one regularly accompanying cante y baile...
there are many dancers, but the picture is the same, very few perform the way that makes you "olé"...in fact, the two best ones are classy dancers, but they have both moved to spain, they come home a couple of times every year to perform...
there used to be flamenco clubs held here, but not anymore...too little interest, and even if there's something, noone's willing to participate out of shyness or lack of confidence etc...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2013 14:39:51

Ricardo

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From: Washington DC

RE: solea (in reply to machopicasso)

quote:

ORIGINAL: machopicasso

quote:

in dance, there is nothing more difficult than a soleá...

Can you explain why that is? I've just started accompanying a new (and very good) dancer. She mentioned a bunch of palos she wants us to do, but soleá was conspicuously absent. I didn't understand why. I assumed that the slower pace would make it easier. But, then again, there's a lot I don't know about flamenco dance.

Slower is much more difficult to project emotionally for everyone. It has to be very intense. It is more typical for dancers to do solea por buleria or alegria if they are not advanced. Siguiriya slow is also tough like solea. THe most advanced I saw is Taranto as you must interpret free form cante to compas and requires a more advanced understanding both of compas AND cante structure to interpret well. Set choreographies almost never work exactly right if you change musicians.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 13 2013 17:05:33

kudo

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RE: solea (in reply to Doitsujin)

quote:

clomb

what does that mean?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2013 4:52:49

rickm

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RE: solea (in reply to rickm)

clomb is like derp assign whatever meaning is appropriate lol

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2013 17:08:57

machopicasso

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RE: solea (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

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the scene here is really small...

I hear you. I relocated to another city seven months ago for work, and the flamenco scene here is small, as well. I've heard of one other flamenco guitarist in the area and two or three dancers. The dancer whom I'm starting to accompany is really good -- much better than I am as a guitarist. But I'm looking forward to the challenge and hope to help give flamenco a little more visibility in my new city.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2013 8:25:07