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Neotriz

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20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla pas... 



RIP maestro!!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 3 2012 1:46:09
 
stratos13

 

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

20 years ago, and still if you want to listen to the best version of any tradicional letra, you have to listen to him.

He was & is the man!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 3 2012 14:21:52
 
Morante

 

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to stratos13

San Fernando is at the moment putting on many shows in memory of Camaron, from public concerts to a misa flamenca in his Peña.

However, if you want to hear traditional letras properly sung you should listen to La Perla or Chaqueta. Camaron did not invent flamenco, nor is he the greatest ever cantaor.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 3 2012 15:51:34
 
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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Morante

I agree Morante, anyone who starts learning accompaniment will begin by listening a lot to la perla, chaqueta...la niña de los peines also helped me a lot

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 4 2012 22:35:38
 
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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/audios/especiales-radio-3/especial-radio-3-camaron-20-anos-despues-12-09-12/1526219/

Live homenaje en sevilla. haii Joseee...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 14 2012 22:45:23
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

The year Camaron died was the worst year in my live. It was the year i was planning to graduate with honer after studying 8 years at Paco Peñas flamenco school, but as it turned out disaster after disaster popped up. First Camaron died and 2 days later i lost the equally important Astor Piazzolla (loosing two out of 4 musical hero's). Next i lost mounds because i was forced to move my house (renovation). In november i suffered my very first tendinites. In january i finally was ready to start preparations but when i finally got "in the mood" my mother died. I didn't play for weeks and got shingles in the proses. 2 mounds prior to my exam i was finally able to "study" 1 or 2 hours a day, although "moving my fingers" would be a better description. I did pas (with good remarks) but obviously not cum laude as planed.....soit

Saillant detail was that with the first 6 people graduating at Paco's University course 3 out of 6 lost a parents shortly before there final exam. The first one died 6 mounds for the exam, 3 years later my mother died 3 mounds before my exam and 1 or 2 years later the last one died on the day of the final exam. Many have graduated since and as far as i can tell all went well ever since.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 15 2012 0:16:06
 
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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Erik van Goch

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik van Goch

The year Camaron died was the worst year in my live. It was the year i was planning to graduate with honer after studying 8 years at Paco Peñas flamenco school, but as it turned out disaster after disaster popped up. First Camaron died and 2 days later i lost the equally important Astor Piazzolla (loosing two out of 4 musical hero's). Next i lost mounds because i was forced to move my house (renovation). In november i suffered my very first tendinites. In january i finally was ready to start preparations but when i finally got "in the mood" my mother died. I didn't play for weeks and got shingles in the proses. 2 mounds prior to my exam i was finally able to "study" 1 or 2 hours a day, although "moving my fingers" would be a better description. I did pas (with good remarks) but obviously not cum laude as planed.....soit

Saillant detail was that with the first 6 people graduating at Paco's University course 3 out of 6 lost a parents shortly before there final exam. The first one died 6 mounds for the exam, 3 years later my mother died 3 mounds before my exam and 1 or 2 years later the last one died on the day of the final exam. Many have graduated since and as far as i can tell all went well ever since.


Odd, similar events here. I was not into flamenco at the time, no clue who camaron was, but remember the day and what I was doing reading about it years later. It's sort of personal to me, not going to share, but I remember that day exactly and in hindsight found it interesting coincidence (where were you when bla bla disaster happened type thing) after reading some biography of Camaron's career.

I was however into Al Dimeola and had just picked up his world sinfonia which contained some Piazzola stuff, that summer. The liner notes talked about how he had suffered and was saddly going to die before Dimeola had a chance to play together after receiving music via mail. I shared the disc with my father that summer, he was a classical guitarist and I was Rock player, but he had eclectic tastes and I thought he might be impressed finally with stuff I was into. As it turned out, he was really into Piazzolla already and had arranged some of his pieces for his chamber group with flute and cello. I had finally found some common ground with my dad the musician and that summer for the first time we sat down and played some music together. My father himself died literally weeks or days after this, major life changing event for me as you can imagine.

Since that summer, I have made it a point whenever i meet musicians of whatever genre/nationality/culture/fame/level/ego etc....I don't hesitate to pull out the guitar and try to meet them in the middle and experience the communion of playing together, cuz the thing lurks in the back of my mind that his may be the LAST opportunity. As a result, I have had some amazing encounters, most ending positively. The worst thing for me is when a guitarist has the chance, but for whatever reason decides to keep it in the case.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 15 2012 9:22:49
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

Speaking about last opportunity, most fortunately one of the last albums Astor Piazzolla left us (zero hour) happened to be the very best record ever. In fact, up to today it is my point of reference for this solar system as far as recordings are concerned.

"This is absolutely the greatest record i've ever made in my entire life. We gave our souls to it. This is the record I can give to my grandchildren and say "this is what we did with hour lives, this is how complex we were'"-Astor Piazzolla (after a lifetime of music).

When Zero Hour was released i studied it 3 times a day in full concentration, months and months on a row. In fact Astor Piazzolla's new tango quintet performing the album live on stage was an even bigger experience. "it's been 20 years since i've heard a night of such beautiful music, and 20 years more before i'll forget it" said Gil Evans. He obviously was less lucky as i was back then since one of the (many) Piazzolla concerts i attended will stick with me for the rest of my life. In fact my life could have very well ended that night because during that concert i suffered an emotional shock and i couldn't breath for minutes...scary indeed, but i guess there are worse ways to die than an overdose of beauty :-)

My father once spend a week at Paco Peña's house to work on a mutual project. When work was done they lay down to rest and Paco played him a copy of zero hour. Once again my father got tears in his eyes of sheer happiness, and this is a guy who knows, witnessed and initiated major developments in classical, jazz, world and flamenco music since the 40ties. He studied and still plays the Bach suites on guitar/alt-guitar/lute for over 60 years now and knows more about Paco Peña's music and technique than Paco probably knows himself. Back in the 40ties/50ties he witnessed (and accompanied) Flamenco choreographies that are partly forgotten ever since. Loads of knowledge/skills can be lost when somebody departs from this world so let's indeed enjoy them as long as (and whenever) we can!

Fortunately we can still enjoy Piazzolla's "zero hour" and the records of Camaron (who i most unfortunately never met)!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 15 2012 12:27:26
 
edguerin

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

This used to be a fantastic link for Camaron letras and music

But I can't get the sound to play anymore

Any ideas?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 15 2012 16:37:41
 
edguerin

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

nobody?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 18 2012 8:45:57
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to edguerin

quote:

nobody?


no idea

but i have all the cd's
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 18 2012 11:58:34
 
Elie

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

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But I can't get the sound to play anymore


maybe you need to try on a different browser ?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 18 2012 12:08:21
 
edguerin

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RE: 20 years ago, Camaron de la Isla... (in reply to Neotriz

Does it work for you? If so, what's your set-up?
None of the browsers I've tried have worked so far.

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