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BarkellWH
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From: Washington, DC
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RE: When Practicing (in reply to Kalo)
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Kalo, I think it is a good idea to learn new pieces while still trying to master the older ones you are working on. For one thing, it keeps you from getting bored by practicing one alone over and over. For another, you can work on one piece forever and still find new flourishes to make it more elegant. I have the good fortune to have a great teacher here in the Washington, DC area, and he has helped me learn various palos and pieces, starting with simple falsetas and gradually adding more complicated flourishes that really add elegance to the pieces. We review older ones while beginning newer ones. For my next challenge, we are going to work on a Zambra, using one by Sabicas as the template. Cheers, Bill
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Date Jun. 5 2012 23:03:59
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Kalo
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RE: When Practicing (in reply to Kalo)
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While some might say that they practice palmas, that aint something thats going to help you unless you want to play palmas. You want to play the guitar and have a better "sense" of each palo's rhythm but you should remember that ANY instrument is rhythmic so you should practice those rhythms on the instrument you play. No need to play notes, just mute the strings and play rhythms, accents etc etc. Think of progressive metal for instance, you'll have to be very confortable with lots of odd time signatures changing all over the place.. eventually you'll get to know a lot about drumming without even playing the drums. Short answer, forget about palmas, cajon, maracas and practice on the guitar. Hi Rui Martins, Thanks for the reply, I understand the term "tapado" for practicing on guitar and one can practice to that.... However, but, I am just curious why MOST guitarist know how to do palmas? I remember when I was first starting out...A local flamenco guitarist who was VERY much accomplished said to me: You should put down the guitar and learn palmas before even playing flamenco. He knew it and on a daily basis practices it with his wife who is also a flamenco dancer... Thanks, Kalo
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Date Jun. 6 2012 0:41:38
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Sr. Martins
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RE: When Practicing (in reply to Kalo)
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That depends on what is your purpose. To play any flamenco instrument you have to know the rhythms, the accents.. but that happens in any genre, even with 4/4 time signatures. You can count with palmas, snaping fingers, taping on the leg, with a metronome.. that doesnt matter. The thing is that in flamenco the hand clapping is used as an instrument, not just a way to count rhythm. What I mean is that what you need is to count properly in whatever instrument/style you play. Saying that you need to learn palmas is the same as saying that you should learn to play drums if you cant play 7/8 on the guitar... it is pointless to change instrument, you have to internalize the rhythm anyway :p OTOH, if by playing palmas you meant "just taping the rhythms/accents", that is advisable, not necessarily with palmas, you can even use your foot. Remember that it doesnt matter if you clap hands, tap foot, play drums if you dont know what to do or what you are doing.
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Date Jun. 6 2012 12:03:12
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Sr. Martins
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RE: When Practicing (in reply to Sr. Martins)
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To give you an example, Iam part of a big group (its called Tuna, you spanish folks might know that that is). The instrumentation is acoustic, double bass, guitars, mandolins, etc.. and percussion. All of us who play stringed instruments dont really care for percussion instruments but sometimes we're playing at a restaurant or something, drinking wine and beer and eventually most of us start playing percussion lol The funny thing is that althought we never practice any percussion, we all play it perfectly well, maybe not with the best tone production but thats not the point. The ones who only sing and do coreography, they all suck at percussion, guitar... whatever. I might not be getting my point across but what I mean is that you should focus in what you really want. Palmas wont do you any harm and it is an inexpensive instrument for sure but there are many cases of people who end up playing drums to get the rhytm, violin to practice melodic sense, trumpet to avoid playing with finger shapes, etc.... they get good at none and all they wanted in the first place was to play guitar! lol
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Date Jun. 6 2012 18:18:03
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