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Aire...What does it mean?
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NormanKliman
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 RE: Aire...What does it mean? (in reply to Arturo)
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Not an easy one to translate, although the word "air" is also used in English to mean general character or appearance, and can even be applied to music, although in that case it just means a melody.
In flamenco, it refers to the feeling caused by the little details that imply rhythm. In my opinion, this usually has to do with the difference between "straight" eighth-notes (like a marching band) and "triplet" eighth-notes (swing). That'd be a question of breaking things down to a common denominator of twos or threes. But it could also refer to the mood created by melody and harmony, so the word is used in different ways.
Just imagine two players doing the same bulerías, for example, but with very different results. One might sound loose and breezy, with lots of space for extra notes that aren't being played. The other might sound tight and heavy, with every note crammed into the compás and no extra space.
About aire being important, that'd be another way to use the word. What I said about sounding "loose" or "tight" is all a matter of personal preference, so it's not like one is better than the other. But if somebody plays without any nuances, repeating the same patterns over and over, it could be said that he doesn't have aire. In that sense, imagine a hot stuffy room and opening a window to let in some fresh "aire." Gotta keep it playful.
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Date Jan. 21 2010 0:11:32
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Arash
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RE: Aire...What does it mean? (in reply to Ron.M)
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pride is ok and good and can be constructive, as long as it has to do with something you have achieved and gained yourself and not something which is just there by pure luck or by accident.
for instance : nation. there is no logic and no reason to be proud of any nationality.
because you were just born somewhere by pure accident. could have been somewhere else too.
but, let say, you learn how to build a guitar, work, build your first guitar, it sounds good.
you are proud of it. good. hapiness is a bit different emotion than pride imo.
in this example for instance, you are both, happy and proud.
but sometimes you are just happy and not proud.
btw, Ron, i think you were and are sometimes proud too, but you don't know it and maybe don't realize it.
and sorry about the problems with the house, hope it will be solved somehow.
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Date Jan. 21 2010 12:42:09
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Ricardo
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RE: Aire...What does it mean? (in reply to Arturo)
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I go with 3 terms used, "vibe", and "atmosphere".....directly relates to the way the "feeling" of the music is percieved by those around you. You can play with feeling, but it is more the feeling outside of you, around you, based on what is played sung or danced. For example the "aire" of taranta could be coming from the key you play in...it sets the mood or vibe. Rhythm is separate, but it too can help to create the vibe. For example if you dont' have a good groove (soniquete) you won't create the required "aire" for whatever it is. Groove or soniquete is not just the compas, but the notes in between, the way you accent them or not, the dynamics, the subdivisions of the beat. There are different ways to do it.
With the right soniquete you can create the "aire" of jerez, for example.
Hope that helps.
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Date Jan. 21 2010 14:24:54
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Ron.M
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From: Scotland
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RE: Aire...What does it mean? (in reply to Estevan)
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That's great. I love it when we agonize about what a word like "soniquete" really means, and then you get someone of that calibre who can't tell you in Spanish so he uses English words!
HaHa!
So true....I love it!
It's like when the high-brow critics are interviewed on radio etc...
Whenever they come up against something etherial, they inevitibly come out with some foreign phrase or other... 
Ed:
I dunno?
You're the Psychiatrist!
I'm not a church going person, but was brought up in the gloom of 1950's Scottish Presbyterianism, a particulary austere version of Christianity where hard work, frugality and service to others were regarded as good and any sense of self-importance or display of advantage or sense of being pleased with oneself as bad.
So I'm sure some of it must have rubbed off without me knowing...I dunno.
"pride" was basically a no-no....it was wrong thinking...
Basically the message was...
"Any ability that you have you can put down to your DNA, your upbringing, your teachers, other people, good fortune, luck and ultimately God."
Your part in it was only to get up off your backside and put in a bit of reasonable effort.
So there we are...
We can't even all agree on the true meaning of a straightforward English word such as "pride"....
and are arguing over the exact meaning of "aire"!
cheers,
Ron
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Date Jan. 22 2010 9:53:35
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