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Andy Culpepper
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There is a saying, spend 20 years accompanying baile, 20 years accompanying cante, and then, well, you can start to think about playing solo Don't think anyone really follows that these days but there is some truth in it. At this point though, I've only been playing Flamenco about 3 years, but I AM a Flamenco guitarist, just not a "good" one yet
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Date May 13 2009 11:31:14
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minordjango
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thats sure is a difficult questioquote:
GuitarVlog n after playing for 4 years i was steaching people who had been playing 20, yet it want there focus, i had also read an artical in my first year of playing its 20 years to become a serious beginner!!! , but no matter is the love of art which has got most all all of us on the forum, people here me play they say man you can play , but can i yes ??? well yeah but at what level, . today i cant play ****!!! yet i have played for john williams he said i have something@!@@@ but flamenco i cant bloody play in compas. but its passion, so that over rides being good or anything,,,,,,,beginner advanced are only lables.......bob dylan is a fine guitarist / singer , but a jazz singer /guitarist may say......me hes a beginner?? now im lost hehe ole!@! welcome to flamenco a lifetime investment of the soul
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Date May 13 2009 21:26:43
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jonc
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I've been playing less than three years with extended breaks during winters and restricted practice time in the summers, but I feel good about where I am with he instrument. The actual flamenco aspect is lacking, and hopefully always will feel that way. What I mean to say is that, since I'm approaching a tradition from the outside, I'm especially wary of declaring my own inclusiveness in the culture. I have no dancers or singers to accompany, or cajon players or really anyone else at all. When I play, I like to be outside on a nice day, in public, playing the songs that I love. Sometimes I play them as rigidly in compas as I'm able, other times I take my own time and see what happens without the structure. People seem to say a lot that when I'm playing they want to drift off to sleep! For myself, I want to be an accomplished _flamenco_ player, but right now, for others, in this beautiful season in New England, I only want to help people to relax and enjoy these songs that I love. Tomorrow night I have a paying gig -- mood music for a banquet setting. This is my first one, and I feel no pressure or stress about it. Perhaps if there were going to be a bunch of flamencos there waiting to criticize my compas or whatnot I'd be nervous, but for my audience I'd say that I'm good, and for myself, knowing that I dedicate so many hours a day to refining my ability to express what I feel on this wonderful instrument, I'm okay!
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Date May 14 2009 6:17:11
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mark indigo
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RE: How long did it take for you to ... (in reply to Ron.M)
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Over the second year, as I learned more and more about Flamenco, it slowly dawned upon me that I knew absolutely f*ck all about this music and was a joke to myself and others who knew about this stuff. compared to a lot of people, you were a really, really fast learner Ron! it took me a lot longer, and a lot of people never seem to realise it.... they never really learn "more and more".... i guess 'cos they think they know it all already.... quote:
From there on, the more I learned, the less I knew. Which still continues to this day. yup, olé to that, the more i learn, the more i realise there is to learn.... fortunately i like learning stuff!
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Date May 14 2009 14:07:07
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polishcomedy
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I'm confused. Is this from the time we started playing guitar or from the time we started playing flamenco? I'd been playing guitar for about 19 years before getting into flamenco. I've been playing country, jazz, rockabilly, funk, latin, metal, etc. (as well as piano, trumpet, drums, and bass), so I know my way around the instrument a fair deal giving me a head start from someone learning guitar AND flamenco from the start. Granted, flamenco is very different from the styles I listed, with a big learning curve getting all the new techniques down, but I think I've been learning at quite an accelerated rate. Did all you guys start learning flamenco the same time you learned the basics?
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Date May 14 2009 14:25:10
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minordjango
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the funny thing is , or sad, is that even my problems as a player in my first year still haunt me, rhythm is my drawback, i really feel it hard to feel the pulse, i go off in dream land as i play, i have to play drums more !!!! im the same as polishcomedy man, funk /etc, flamenco is real cool , i noticed also that there has been an impromentment in my picado, in comparison to classical there is a lot more picado and faster, so we are like forced to learn them, in classical guitar only a few works have long extended picado. ] i always use to love the spanish impressionistic piece, all the sound of phrgian harmony , so he we are learning flamenco in my 30s
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Date May 14 2009 16:25:06
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