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Stu

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Nana 

Can someone define this palos for me?
I read some where that it has no fixed structure and is used to put babies to sleep!!!

but can anyone tell me what keys its usually in or not in etc
also any specific nana suggestions you like would be great.

Stu
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aloysius

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RE: Nana (in reply to Stu

Nana is Spanish for "lullaby". In a flamenco context I can only think of two, both are very different so I don't know what the standard way of doing it is, if there is one. One of them is Ines Bacan with Pedro Bacan on guitar, I can't remember the name of the album, the key is Em/B phryg. and the rhythm basically like a slow waltz. The other is the last song on "Me voy contigo" (Remedios Amaya), which is done palo seco and in free time.

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aloysius

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RE: Nana (in reply to aloysius

The album title I couldn't remember is "de viva voz" - brilliant example of both Ines and Pedro!

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Ailsa

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RE: Nana (in reply to Stu

Hey Stu,

My guitar teacher has just lent me some old discs to listen to. One of them is by Manuel Gerena and has a track on it called Nana del Despertar. Haven't had a chance to listen yet but I'll let you know what it's like.

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Matic

 

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RE: Nana (in reply to Stu

I searched a bit...

quote:

Nanas

Origins : Cádiz , Sevilla

It is a song that doesn’t fit any specific beat, but instead usually borrows the structure of the ‘toná’ or even that of the ‘bulería por soleá’. It is employed to sleep children.


Here you can download a sample:
Singing: Márquez El Zapatero / Guitar:Pedro Sierra
http://www.andalucia.org/flamenco/palos/sonido/nana.mp3


Some of them, who recorded a nana:

Camaron sings a nana on Leyenda del Tiempo (Nana del caballo grande) with lyrics by Lorca, accompanied by SITAR...


Curro Malena has recorded a Nana with the guitar of above mentioned Pedro Bacán.


Daniel Casares plays a solo guitar Nana on his cd Corazón de tu Alma, a very nice piece, it could really sleep a child.


José Menese acc. by Enrique De Melchor, listen here:
http://www.esflamenco.com/product/es30395597.html


Mario Escudero's Nana, a tremolo piece in E minor


PdL plays a Nana with Ricardo Modrego on cd '12 canciones de Garcia Lorca para guitarra'


Tomasa La Macanita, cd: A la Luna Nueva


Diego El Cigala with Nino Josele (cd: Corren tiempos de alegría)...
First words: Duerme, mi nino, duerme...


Estrella Morente, Esperanza Fernandez, Pepe de Lucia etc. also recorded a nana.


I hope this helps a bit. It helped me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 27 2007 9:30:45
 
Ailsa

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RE: Nana (in reply to Matic

Wow Matic, you are a great researcher!! If I ever need to know anything I'm gonna get you working on it
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 27 2007 9:40:53
 
Stu

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RE: Nana (in reply to Stu

Wow thanks guys.
I thought my thread was gonna dissapear without a reply. I'm working now but will check out those links and names/tunes etc later on.
The song thats sparked my interest is Yerma on Nunezs album which I've been trying to get the tab for for ages but it doesnt seem to exist, I decided to try and transcribe it. However that album has alot of diff tunings and needed to know if nanas were traditional in E or D or something else? perhaps the songs suggested above will help me get started.

stu
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