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Good flamenco books (in English) from a musical POV?
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Ricardo
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 RE: Good flamenco books (in English)... (in reply to metalhead)
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So I'm looking for some good books in English that explain various palos, ways of playing compas, etc. Not looking for techniques and all
Most of what I have read is superficial, and even books in Spanish don’t always get it exactly right, in terms of nuts and bolts. I had to learn on the job for 20 some years, just like Sabicas said, before I really understood, and I am still learning new things when I work with artists from Spain. The best website in English is Norman Kliman’s www.canteytoque.es and although it seems singularly focused on core palos (solea, siguiriyas), as a resource I have learned more there than anywhere else outside of the job itself (getting paid by dancers to orchestrate shows with singers). The website info about cante comes from research done by the Soler brothers, along with Mairena’s input, and is one of the few that a I endorse as their classification of song melodies has logic and validity IMO.
Probably you just want to learn what to do with your fingers on the guitar rather than all that cerebral stuff, but honestly I tell you there is a relationship, and any player doing things physically “correctly” understands a lot of that stuff too. It is very hard to learn flamenco in your bed room with books and videos, but not impossible. You should get a teacher/mentor of some sort so you can get feedback.
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Date Jul. 2 2023 16:06:22
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mark indigo
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RE: Good flamenco books (in English)... (in reply to metalhead)
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So I'm looking for some good books in English that explain various palos, ways of playing compas, etc. Not looking for techniques and all
I wonder what you mean by "techniques and all" as opposed to "ways of playing compas" cuz in my head technique IS the way of playing (Manolo Sanlucar said, "without technique you can't play anything"), so "ways of playing compas" will involve technique....
I would suggest Oscar Herrero Paso a Paso volume 4, the first one on Solea (DVD+book). The whole of that DVD is devoted to Soleá compás. It takes everything apart, demonstrates and explains different ways of expressing the compás, llamadas, remates etc. etc. You can apply the way it is broken down, demonstrated and explained to pretty much any other palo. There are further volumes on Soleá, falsetas and then cante accompaniment, and then more volumes on Alegrias. The first 3 volumes of the series cover technique, including the techniques you need to play compás...
Also Herrero did a 5 volume book series which covers Solea, Siguiriyas, Tangos, Bulerias and Fandangos, but I don't like it so much for several reasons, one of them is because the audio is not provided for all of it.
Also, I have to say that I don't see flamenco as something you can learn intellectually from a book that "explains" it and that's it, you've got it, away you go.... I think that stuff has it's place, but the real learning is in hours and hours of listening, and comparing the things you have learnt to the things you hear, noticing the things that are the same, the variations etc. etc. and going to find a local dance class and sitting playing compás for them, and applying the things you've learnt - anything you learn from a book you will have to figure out how to actually apply it in the "real world" of playing... and if you can find a singer then accompanying them too.
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