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BarkellWH
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RE: Early Christmas presents (in reply to kitarist)
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Looks like you are in for a Christmas treat with your books on flamenco, Konstantin. At the risk of transgressing the forbidden "Off-Topc" category, I will state that I have placed my request for Christmas with my Brazilian Santa Claus (my wife), a book entitled "Conquering the Pacific," by Andres Resendez, a professor of history at the University of California, Davis. It tells the story of the 1564-65 Spanish voyage across the Pacific and return by Andres de Urdaneta, but it focuses on a little known member sailing with the fleet who completed the "ida y vuelta" voyage from Mexico to Manila, an Afro-Portuguese navigator and pilot named Lope Martin. The voyage opened up the Pacific to Spanish trade with the Far East and laid the groundwork for the famed Manila Galleons over the next two and one-half centuries, carrying Mexican and Peruvian silver to Manila and returning with goods from the Orient. It also broke the Portuguese monopoly on trade with the Far East. Bill
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Date Nov. 30 2021 21:18:26
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Mark2
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RE: Early Christmas presents (in reply to BarkellWH)
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Hi Bill, You might also enjoy this book. i've read it a few times-it is fascinating. https://www.amazon.com/Over-Edge-World-Terrifying-Circumnavigation/dp/0066211735/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=over+the+edge+of+the+world&qid=1638388201&sr=8-1 And a completely different but just as riveting sailing adventure: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6055.A_Voyage_for_Madmen quote:
"Conquering the Pacific," by Andres Resendez quote:
ORIGINAL: BarkellWH Looks like you are in for a Christmas treat with your books on flamenco, Konstantin. At the risk of transgressing the forbidden "Off-Topc" category, I will state that I have placed my request for Christmas with my Brazilian Santa Claus (my wife), a book entitled "Conquering the Pacific," by Andres Resendez, a professor of history at the University of California, Davis. It tells the story of the 1564-65 Spanish voyage across the Pacific and return by Andres de Urdaneta, but it focuses on a little known member sailing with the fleet who completed the "ida y vuelta" voyage from Mexico to Manila, an Afro-Portuguese navigator and pilot named Lope Martin. The voyage opened up the Pacific to Spanish trade with the Far East and laid the groundwork for the famed Manila Galleons over the next two and one-half centuries, carrying Mexican and Peruvian silver to Manila and returning with goods from the Orient. It also broke the Portuguese monopoly on trade with the Far East. Bill
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Date Dec. 1 2021 19:59:42
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BarkellWH
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RE: Early Christmas presents (in reply to Mark2)
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Hi Bill, You might also enjoy this book. i've read it a few times-it is fascinating. https://www.amazon.com/Over-Edge-World-Terrifying-Circumnavigation/dp/0066211735/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=over+the+edge+of+the+world&qid=1638388201&sr=8-1 Many thanks for the tip, Mark. I have always been fascinated by those early voyages of discovery in the 15th and 16th centuries by the Portuguese and Spanish that opened up the world. I'm looking forward to the book about Andres de Urdaneta's and the mulatto Lope Martin's crossing the Pacific to Manila and return to Mexico. But I have equally high regard for the other mariners and explorers as well: Magellan's voyage, Columbus's discovery of the New World. (Yes, it was a discovery.), and others who discovered that one could round the southern cape of Africa and head into the Indian Ocean and beyond to the spice islands. They were master mariners and great captains, and their voyages not only resulted in the discovery of new lands and peoples, they also resulted in more refined navigational techniques that led to ever more precise headings, bearings, and the ability to sail in uncharted waters. The British and the Dutch followed, but it was the Portuguese and Spanish who pioneered it. Bill
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Date Dec. 2 2021 21:33:49
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BarkellWH
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RE: Early Christmas presents (in reply to kitarist)
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Bill, that book sounds fascinating. I can't even imagine what it must have been like sailing across the Pacific in those days - its enormity is mind-boggling even now; it must have been horrifying then! Konstantin, yes, the Portuguese and Spanish mariners and explorers in the Age of Discovery were master mariners, great captains, and had "cojones." They may have been sailing for "Gold, God, and Glory," but we are the beneficiaries of their discoveries, not the least of those benefits being the wonderful books we can read recounting their exploits. Bill
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Date Dec. 2 2021 21:38:51
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