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mmenk
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working with rosette designer
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Norman, That is fantastic. You have come up with a beautiful program, dedicated to the most artistic decoration on the guitar, and have freely shared it with all of us. Thank you for your good work and generosity. I am still learning how to use it to it's full potential and I have a lot to learn. Perhaps this thread will help us all to make the best use of the program. My first question: when the program opens. it is the field for the central mosaic theme with a menu for colors and grid layout, then if you want to edit, or preview we find a screen to do the rings. There are some functions available to flip and vary the image, which is a great creative tool, please describe and demonstrate how to manipulate these functions. Perhaps a short tutorial on how to make this program really sing. What is the best way to integrate the rings with the mosaic, and also can we build a library of common styles, like herringbone, zig zags, alternating lines, dots, etc and drag and drop or stretch some motifs. Any help will be profound, and i would encourage all users of this program to offer feed back and suggestions to help us optimize what we have available. I realize that this is asking a lot from donor, but I request that you spare a few moments to clarify and offer a bit more help. It would be awesome if other designers will offer a look at some of their ideas using this program. M.M.
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Date Jan. 15 2016 2:38:55
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nhills
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From: West Des Moines, IA USA
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RE: working with rosette designer (in reply to mmenk)
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Hi! Thanks for your interest and initiative. I'll try to answer your questions and will probably post a few designs. First, it's not totally obvious that there is a help screen. Sorry - I probably buried it too well. Click on the "copyright" menu entry & select "about/help". The easiest way to learn the transforms is to enter a simple, but non-symmetrical design and try them. Once used, they should be self-explanatory. The main mosaic obviously goes between the rings & the rings are symmetrical around the mosaic by default. There is a dialog option to override the symmetry. A secondary mosaic can be embedded in the ring specification. I'll post examples of some of this. As far as "libraries" are concerned, the secondary mosaic is another .rdd file that is imported through a dialog option. This file would consist of the mosaic spec without rings. So - yes, build up a folder of these simple .rdd files to use as needed. If you are adventurous, the .rdd files are simple tagged text files that can be modified directly. I don't recommend it (back up the file first!), but it has its uses. More later. Questions are welcome. I'm sorry to say that revisions to the program are no longer possible - I've retired from coding & no longer have the development tools. The program has flaws that I regret, but it was originally only an experiment for my own use. Cheers, Norman
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Date Jan. 15 2016 18:43:02
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mmenk
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RE: working with rosette designer (in reply to nhills)
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Ok Norman, Let me tell you about my experience designing and building these confections. First of all, it is a labor of love. Then a treat for the well sighted. Then a way for the artisan to showcase some artistic talent, Then a way to keep a tradition alive. If you should ever attempt to make something like this, and if you have a design sense and a good tool box and a place to work, then let's have at it. To make a single rosette, one of a kind, purpose built, here is how I would do it: Use an electric router, best tool for the job. Chuck in a sharp bit, downspirals do the cleanest jobs, but if you seal the soundboard first, it will yield good results with a straight bit, I like to use a half inch straight cutter, that is about 12mm. More later.
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Date Jan. 22 2016 0:32:00
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mmenk
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RE: working with rosette designer (in reply to mmenk)
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If you have been watching so far, and want to do this, you probably already have a router and know how to use it. Just use a good pivot point and swing the cutter to make any size channel that you like. I like to work about half the thinness of the top. Now you have a target and an idea, and some strips of purfling, veneers, pearl, mosaics, gold, gems, broken glass, what ever. Do not waste any time, and never hesitate, if you can see in your mind what you want, just mix up the glue and go at it. For the rest of us, we need a design, some parts and a plan. More to follow.
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Date Jan. 22 2016 0:46:43
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