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avimuno
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RE: Vicente Amigo guitar (in reply to Morao)
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After Paco and Tomatitio seems like Vicente does the same deal with V. Carrillo: https://www.facebook.com/VicenteAmigooficial Don´t know any details, but the headstock looks like a Carrillo... Never seen Vicente playing (live) with another guitar like his Reyes. Maybe just a few times to promote... who knows... The guitar Vicente posted on his Facebook page is a Francisco Navarro Reyes copy. Legend has it that it was Manuel Reyes himself who told Vicente that there was a guy in Mexico who could build a guitar that was really close to his own. Incidentally, Vicente bought 2 Grand Concert Reyes copies from Navarro and liked them so much that he decided to develop a line of guitars with his name on the label... very much like what Carillo did with PdL and Tomate. Surprisingly, Navarro won't have his name on the label, which is weird... anyways, Navarro has built 4 prototypes of the model they wish to commercialize, and what you see in the picture is Vicente playing number 4 I believe. The guitar Vicente is seen playing is pretty much Navarro's Reyes copy with a little tweaking from Vicente and a pickup system installed inside, as well as a different headstock. This will not be the guitar that will be commercialized actually. I am not sure how these guitars will be sold yet, but the price will be around USD 3,000 (including a hard case and international shipping) according to one of Navarro's dealers, who's had one of the 4 prototypes in his shop. Incidentally, this guitar will be cheaper than Navarro's Grand Concert Reyes model, which goes for USD 3,800... which means that the "Vicente Amigo" brand of guitars will be a step below what Navarro considers his concert line. It definitely won't have the pickup system, and might not be french polished either. The pickup system used by Vicente is built by Carlos Juan. It has both an internal condenser mic and a piezo system (involves drilling a hole in the guitar! )... as well as a mini preamp which is glued inside the guitar. You can see it on his website. The system he has developed for Vicente is quite originally called the "Vicente" model! It retails for €900 (including installation) which is not cheap at all, but it's supposed to be really really good. Here's Carlos' website: http://carlosjuan.eu/ From the informations I have gathered Vicente was also very specific about the setup of the prototypes which is why Navarro had to build 4 of them in order to get it right... for example, he likes the string spacing between the 1st and 6th string at the bridge to be at 56mm, and the nut width is at 53mm. Also, from what I understand, most of the tweaking has been about the pulsation of the guitar, so this is where it might defer slightly from the Navarro Grand Concert (or the Reyes copies built by Tom Blackshear - it was Tom who taught Navarro how to fine-tune the top of the Reyes copy)... otherwise it's the exact same guitar! I think that Vicente and Navarro are on their way to be making quite a few Benjamins... why not, if the buyer is getting a good value-for-money guitar which captures that elusive Vicente Amigo Reyes sound! I wouldn't mind trying one myself!
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Date Aug. 12 2013 17:53:32
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Ramon Amira
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RE: Vicente Amigo guitar (in reply to Morao)
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I'm not sure how he plans to sell them, though it seems something like individually, through friends, word of mouth etc. But who know with these things. The model will be very close to Poncho's current Grand Concert model, which is what his Reyes copy is. It will not be the Concert model, which is Poncho's personal model. I think there will be some tweaking of the Reyes with input from Vicente Amigo. I also heard that VA said that the Navarro Reyes copy sounded better than his own beloved real Reyes. Well, the Reyes copies are great guitars, especially for the price, but I think it's overstating the case to say that they are better than a real Reyes, which are the greatest flamenco guitars I have ever played. So maybe he didn't really say that, or maybe it's a marketing ploy to sell his name line. Whatever . . . If someone wants to give me a real Reyes, I think I would accept it. Oh, er . . . please make it from the mid-eighties. Thanks. Ramon
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Date Aug. 27 2013 20:56:03
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Carlos Amps
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RE: Vicente Amigo guitar (in reply to avimuno)
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Just to make a note that Vicente used few different pickup systems live, in last 5 months, and most of you have seen him on frontlines on spanish magazines reg. Cordoba Concert on Sept. 21. with a funny small black sensor on Reyes top ... that is a custom made one, and was mixed like 60% or more with Shoeps microphone, you can see videos on youtube how great the sound was (Lauren Serrano on main mixer), I was sitting next to the mixer and had pleasure to enjoy the fullbodied amplified guitar sound, as if one hears the total wood vibrations, incl. each detail of maestro's touch, always hearable tone difference whether Amigo played more towards bridge on few cm direction neck, great to see him enjoying own song creations relaxed ... he very much relies on Lauren, and a custom pickup(s) what is in his own words " a revolution", I am a technician and amps maker, so not allowed to say more about it ....
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Date Sep. 27 2013 20:39:12
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