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mark indigo
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RE: Checking "intonation"? (in reply to britguy)
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exactly what is 'string intonation' in addition to the problems of dud or different strings, there is also the issue of compensation. I'm no expert, so I hope the luthiers will forgive (and correct) any inaccuracies, but this is roughly how it was explained to me: The 12th fret is half way between the bridge and the nut, which is why the note at the 12th fret is an octave higher than the open string. Except it's not! The 12th fret would be half way between the bridge and the nut if the strings where at the same level as the wood of the neck, in which case they would buzz and you wouldn't get clear notes. As you have to have the strings up off the wood of the neck to get actual notes, you then have to move the bridge back a little bit to compensate for the height of the action. On classical guitars with higher action, the bridge is moved further back than on flamenco guitars with lower action (a generalisation of course). I once had a flamenco guitar with low-ish action that did not intonate properly. It was eventually diagnosed that the bridge was too far back, as if it were a classical guitar with higher action. The solution was to cut out some wood from the bridge in front of the bridge bone, move the bone forward, and fill in behind it. Problem solved!
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Date Nov. 29 2012 16:42:39
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RE: Checking "intonation"? (in reply to britguy)
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432? Not that uncommon It was the tuning pitch till 1953.....though the push came for 440hz in 1939 Some flute, double bass, violinist and viola players who I played with in thecollege years tuned like that For my guitar it adds a warmer brilliance ... Albeit tiny but noticeabl ... A different fullness.. Different feel to the string Though I still use 440 at the request of others Jason McGuire also suggested its a good frequency...a myriad of reasons involving tone and feel combined with goebels and the nazis and the rothschilds... Then there's the whole Pythagorean thing Worth a try...particularly if you play solo a lot....let us know what you think.
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Date Dec. 4 2012 10:59:31
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RE: Checking "intonation"? (in reply to britguy)
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(Don't quite understand the Goebels/Nazi/Rothschild and Pythagorean connections, but. . . ? ? ? ? ). well the nazi party [Goebels] were the one of the first to push that standard tuning be shifted from 432hz to 440hz here is one of many links online http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message521987/pg1 pythagoras.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning but yes the change is notable i dont really take this stuff on board other than i like tuning to 432 at times, particularly for solo pieces...... some flamenco and jazz recordings as well as classical seem to tune at 432hz someorchestra's seem to be pushing the 440 to 445 [vienna]...
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Date Dec. 4 2012 22:09:30
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