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Martin

 

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Standard Notaton to tab? 
AS my reading of standard notation is rather poor, what is the best way of converting sheet musuc to tablature?

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gaash

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
A lot of time and PowerTab or GuitarPro ... at least that's how I do it.
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Martin

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
I've only got Guitar Pro 4, perhaps I should buy a newer version, 4 doesn't seem that easy to use.

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
I suppose there’s no chance of convincing you to improve your reading instead?

You can spend the next two years converting all the staff notation you want to play to tab, or you can spend it slowly reading the staff and gradually improving.

If you do the former, then at the end of two years there’ll still be years’ more wasted conversion ahead of you.

If you do the latter, there’ll be no more conversion, and much more music available to you.

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
Buy yourself the '' Modern Method For Guitar 1,2,,3 and start reading.. Reading music is like speaking a language. This one is the most beautiful language though.. The time wasted in improving the use of a program such as Guitar Pro, will make you need to have knowledge of reading anyway so what not starting immediately?

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gaash

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
I find powertab (which is free) is easy enough... As for the advice to learn to read notes. Naturally this is a nice solution and perhaps the time spent transcribing a song can instead by spent learning the song from the notes directly however, I personally think tab (provided one can read rythm) to be a more efficient way to describe guitar music so I definitely feel your pain martin and I personally don't spend much time learning from sheet music despite being able to do so. (20+yrs of piano will give you that)

Another benefit of the transcription route into software is the playback capabilities which really aids practice.
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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to gaash) 
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Another benefit of the transcription route into software is the playback capabilities which really aids practice.


That’s one reason I’ve transcribed straight into Finale for the last 20 years: I can hear when I make mistake.

Also: transcribing into staff notation, I just have to worry about getting the right notes. I can figure out the fingering afterwards.

I used to tab on 6-line manuscript paper that I got from the Lute Society — in pencil, of course, so I could erase things.

The current way is much, much easier. And if I really need tab, I can use the tab facility.

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Paul Magnussen) 
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Also: transcribing into staff notation, I just have to worry about getting the right notes. I can figure out the fingering afterwards.


You can also figure out your own fingering with tab.... tab gives the same info as a musical note with one translation to the fretboard already done for you...
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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to gaash) 
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tab gives the same info as a musical note with one translation to the fretboard already done for you...


Yeah, but tab doesn't give you the rhythm, which I find is essential for learning to play pieces in compas. In a way, that's even more important than the fingering. (Of course, developing a good ear is also important). At the end of the day, my preference is always to have both tab and standard notation.
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Martin

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
To be honest I like printing out both the standard notation and the tab on the same page. So I can get the fingering with the tab and the rhythm with the standard. Keeping a pencil and rubber handy to annotate as I go along.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 7 2011 10:15:09
 
gaash

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to machopicasso) 
True if you are looking at straight ascii tab.. I am talking more about tab you would find in a tab book which either also has standard notation or standard rythm notation but w/tab instead of notes.

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tab gives the same info as a musical note with one translation to the fretboard already done for you...


Yeah, but tab doesn't give you the rhythm, which I find is essential for learning to play pieces in compas. In a way, that's even more important than the fingering. (Of course, developing a good ear is also important). At the end of the day, my preference is always to have both tab and standard notation.
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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to machopicasso) 
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Yeah, but tab doesn't give you the rhythm


Some people’s tab doesn’t give you the rhythm. Competent tab has had rhythm since the days of the lutenists (I have a facsimile of a book of it published 1610).

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machopicasso

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Paul Magnussen) 
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Some people’s tab doesn’t give you the rhythm. Competent tab has had rhythm since the days of the lutenists (I have a facsimile of a book of it published 1610).


That's great for 17th century lutenists. But this is a flamenco site, and quality tab with notated rhythm isn't always easy to come by. That can be particularly frustrating since 1) learning the palos and 2) learning to play in compas are both integral to playing flamenco guitar well.
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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to Martin) 
Try TuxGuitar, it´s free.
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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to machopicasso) 
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That's great for 17th century lutenists. But this is a flamenco site, and quality tab with notated rhythm isn't always easy to come by. That can be particularly frustrating since 1) learning the palos and 2) learning to play in compas are both integral to playing flamenco guitar well.


I dont know why you are so keen on rhythmic notation. The last time i looked at a tab or score to get the rhythm was 2005. The more complex the rhythm is the more useless the notation gets, if youre an amateur reader like me. If you are a high class reader who can read very complex rhythms you either 1) get good scores or 2) start to use your ear.

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gaash

 

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RE: Standard Notaton to tab? (in reply to XXX) 
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ORIGINAL: Deniz

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ORIGINAL: machopicasso
That's great for 17th century lutenists. But this is a flamenco site, and quality tab with notated rhythm isn't always easy to come by. That can be particularly frustrating since 1) learning the palos and 2) learning to play in compas are both integral to playing flamenco guitar well.


I dont know why you are so keen on rhythmic notation. The last time i looked at a tab or score to get the rhythm was 2005. The more complex the rhythm is the more useless the notation gets, if youre an amateur reader like me. If you are a high class reader who can read very complex rhythms you either 1) get good scores or 2) start to use your ear.


I tend to agree somewhat. Though sometimes rythm notation is nice to get the basic idea as at least I don't always remember exactly how something goes so it's a nice reminder. Either way, just about every good tab has ryhtm notation as well.
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