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Hello, I'm new here and to Flamenco guitar. Although I'm a musician I only started this style of music last week... (I was inspired after the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie, not really a touching inspiration but I really felt that Penelope Cruz would appreciate if I could Rasgueado.) Any way, I would love for someone to give me some important names to Flamenco or Spanish music. I'm a fan of darker styles of music, and am trying to find something new to listen to. Anything would be greatly appreciated so I can broaden my own understanding of this exotic genre.
I also noticed the users uploading their own playing, I am looking forward to participating in that.
RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
When you said "the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie," I thought you were referring to this:
In which case, I thought to myself, "Wow! That must have been a good video!" Then I realized you were referring to the actual movie.
I'm sure Penelope would appreciate some well-played rasgueados. Perhaps Grisha would help out regarding that matter, though (with his feedback regarding superb playing and the ladies).
For flamenco, I would suggest you start out with some Paco de Lucia, Vicente Amigo, Tomatito, Moraito, and never forget the roots: Nino Ricardo, Ramon Montoya, and their interpreters, like Paco Pena.
RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
Well I'm glad you showed me your video, that was brilliant! I'm still learning what Flamenco actually is, as a style and genre so excuse me for saying Spanish.. Although I am interested in the other styles coming from that culture.
And thank you a lot for those names, it should keep me busy for a while!
RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
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Well I'm glad you showed me your video, that was brilliant! I'm still learning what Flamenco actually is, as a style and genre so excuse me for saying Spanish.. Although I am interested in the other styles coming from that culture.
And thank you a lot for those names, it should keep me busy for a while!
Rest assured I'm not THAT good a player. The video was artificially sped up.
About flamenco versus Spanish: I don't really mind, but you'll find out people can get touchy-feely about this sort of distinction. I mean, Concierto de Aranjuez was played by Paco de Lucia, even though a classical piece written by Rodrigo, a Spanish composer. Anyway...
That a flamenco guitarist (Paco de Lucia) occasionally plays a classical piece (Concierto de Aranjuez) has no bearing on the distinction between flamenco and classical music. It just means he can perform both genres of music. The distinction between flamenco and other forms of Spanish music (classical and otherwise) is very real indeed, and our interlocutor will save himself a lot of muddled detours if he learns that fact right up front.
Cheers,
Bill
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That a flamenco guitarist (Paco de Lucia) occasionally plays a classical piece (Concierto de Aranjuez) has no bearing on the distinction between flamenco and classical music. It just means he can perform both genres of music. The distinction between flamenco and other forms of Spanish music (classical and otherwise) is very real indeed, and our interlocutor will save himself a lot of muddled detours if he learns that fact right up front.
Oops! I've undone what I just did to avoid being the cause of another can of worms being opened. I fully agree with your statement, Bill. I also learned a new word: interlocutor.
RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
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I'm still learning what Flamenco actually is, as a style and genre so excuse me for saying Spanish.. Although I am interested in the other styles coming from that culture.
heres is a summary and a very good answer, it summarizes everything I learned about flamenco and its culture.
What a kick-ass little clip!! I'm going to send that to friends and family to help them understand ;) I've never seen such a great summary! Thanks for posting that!!
I really enjoyed your commnets to the forum, and I agree with all that have said that you are a talented guitarist.
You're very kind, RTC. I just didn't want to stir anything up with my comments about "flamenco and Spanish" music, so I decided to undo everything I did on this thread regarding that matter. I'm surely NOT qualified to be commenting on that issue.
What a kick-ass little clip!! I'm going to send that to friends and family to help them understand ;) I've never seen such a great summary! Thanks for posting that!
thanks to UNESCO for making Flamenco an Intangible Human Heritage. I posted this video on my facebook the day it came out of the UNESCO oven . flamenco is in danger of losing its original feel and culture, because of the new stuff out there like flamenco fusion and jazzy crap, or "new flamenco".
RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
Thanks a lot for that video and those names, it's helped a lot so far. After watching Paco de Lucia, Vincente Amigo and Carlos Montoya I found that, yes, they are incredible guitarists but I wouldn't mind hearing something a little less technical. I still haven't really found any great guitarist/singers. I've decided that it is the classical guitar that appeals to me more, but it's the Flamenco rhythm's and expression I want to learn. I particularly did love the Tango flamenco style, if there are any (I don't know if this is the right wording) 'Tango Flamenco composers'. I would like to hear some more of that! :)
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RE: The right direction! (in reply to skate4apples)
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I wouldn't mind hearing something a little less technical.
Definitely check out Moraito - very pure flamenco and probably more accessible to listen to as you get used to forms. (also other traditional Jerez players like Niño Jero, Manuel Parrilla etc). As for "guitarist/singers", in flamenco the singers are almost always separate from the guitarist - watching a flamenco singer go for it can be kind of like watching an exorcism, there's no way they could even hold a guitar at the same time - having said that there are lighter forms where a singer might occasionally accompany themselves.
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That Pirates cover was Amazing!! Congratulations on blowing my mind! You truly are a genius! 
Hope the studies don't keep you too bogged down 
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