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at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

need judges for intermediate challenge!

hey all,
we need more judges for the intermediate challenge! the challenge will end on january 5th, and judges will have three days to submit their scores and comments. we need you!

more info about the challenge here:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=152170&mpage=1&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1&key=

current judges:
hemeolaman
doitsujin
bursche
xirdneH_imiJ
at_leo_87
mrmagenta
KMMI77
ricardo

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xirdneH_imiJ

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From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

shall i call my evil twin again?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2010 18:39:46

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

yes please

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2010 21:01:18

Neotriz

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

is it too late to join the fun?

if so, any idea when there's going to be a next one? I'd love to contribute and be motivated it!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2010 21:29:55

Adam

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From: Hamilton, ON

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

The deadline isn't until the 5th so you can probably still enter! The thread's in the competitions section or something.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2010 21:31:17

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to Neotriz)

quote:

is it too late to join the fun?

if so, any idea when there's going to be a next one? I'd love to contribute and be motivated it!

deadline is the 5th. you will have to train like you never did before!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 26 2010 23:31:47

Adam

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From: Hamilton, ON

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

ORIGINAL: at_leo_87
you will have to train like you never did before!

Uh oh, is it time for a montage? (again?)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 8:28:15

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 14:50:11

Adam

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From: Hamilton, ON

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 15:03:59

mrMagenta

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From: Sweden

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

I signed up for the challenge but I have quite a lot of other material to work on right now so I can sign up for jury-duty instead, if you need me :-)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 16:53:02

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

ole, thanks magenta!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 17:11:51

mrMagenta

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

besides, since you're not in the challenge.. i can't get payback for the last intermediate challenge. :-P

yikes. I still need to practice that one!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 17:23:11

Elie

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

wow!! can a contestant be a judge at the same time and in the same competition

well I might sign up for judging but I warn you I will definitely choose my self as the winner

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 17:37:02

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to Elie)

quote:

wow!! can a contestant be a judge at the same time and in the same competition
well I might sign up for judging but I warn you I will definitely choose my self as the winner

I don't actually think you would, ElieD...

In fact I think the idea of the contestants judging each other is a very good one.

From the time I've been on the Forum, I've always found students to be very fair.

Let's make it that a contestant can't give himself a score.
Final scores and comments are sent to a Contest Administrator, not posted directly, with time-lags so allowing for "adjustments" on reading what a particular contestant had to say about "your" entry.

On receipt of all the results, the C.A. uploads the final figures.

Why don't we try it out this time?

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 17:58:45

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to mrMagenta)

quote:

besides, since you're not in the challenge.. i can't get payback for the last intermediate challenge. :-P

yikes. I still need to practice that one!

oh yeah! all that hard work and i forgot about those falsetas! shall we do a round two?

quote:

wow!! can a contestant be a judge at the same time and in the same competition
well I might sign up for judging but I warn you I will definitely choose my self as the winner

actually i think we did that in the last intermediate challenge.

i dont really remember any benefits or drawbacks. and doit made a chart somewhere with and without the scores of the challengers.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:01:35

Elie

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

I don't think you would, ElieD...

I was joking

quote:

In fact I think the idea of the contestants judging each other is a very good one.

Let's make it that a contestant can't give himself a score.

and yes it's very interesting Idea I like it ... a contestant can view various ideas and also check who's better nd worse than him/her

I'm down for it .

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:08:35

Adam

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Hmm, but then of course scheming contestants would vote the worst ones up and the best ones down, hoping to stifle their competition.

But if enough contestants thought this, we'd have a sort of prisoner's dilemma and the worst guy would end up winning.

Which is why, if we have the contestants judge, I plan to submit utter garbage

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:10:04

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

wait, it was richard who did the chart.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=118816&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:12:03

Ron.M

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to Adam)

quote:

But if enough contestants thought this, we'd have a sort of prisoner's dilemma and the worst guy would end up winning.

I think this sort of trick would be very difficult to pull off in an open Forum like ours, which would allow for comments afterwards.

That's why Politicians like things to be kept behind closed doors "in the public interest", even when it concerns their own expenses and other lies and scheming.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:16:42

Adam

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Blast you and your small, open communities!

Seriously though, I'd put my vote against this idea for the simple (and, yes, very selfish) reason that I'm not sure I'd be able to put the time I need into making decisions on the recordings that are both intensive and reasonably quick. My department is comprised of sadists (like Stephen Hawking)* who've decided to make us sit an exam for PhD admissions next month, so I need to spend most of my days over this break studying things like early Universe thermodynamics.

*I'm just kidding. Hawking isn't involved in PhD admissions, so I have no idea if he's a sadists.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:26:54

Ron.M

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to Adam)

No problem, ramparts...

You've only got the time you've got...

So just listen to each of the entries twice and give a score without text comments.

Should take no more than an hour in the evening.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 18:31:45

mrMagenta

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

oh yeah! all that hard work and i forgot about those falsetas! shall we do a round two?

Yeah! We should! I tried playing it from memory just a while ago, it's half gone to oblivion, but I can tell I'm still having trouble with habichuelas part.. I should have kept practicing this one. Remember the compas with the arpeggios going in 16ths followed by a repetition using alzapua? That one is tailormade to highlight the holes in my technique. I have no idea why.. it seems harmless considered to the rest of the piece.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 27 2010 22:12:13

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

okay, when should we start practicing? when should the deadline be? maybe we can get others into this as well. it can be a battle royale!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 28 2010 2:34:50

mrMagenta

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

I'm going to be travelling in january. How about deadline february 15? Start... whenever. :-) I'll begin seriously studying it february 1.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 28 2010 11:09:23

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

ok deal! i'll set up an official thread later to invite others.

in the meantime, we still need more judges!!!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 28 2010 19:03:52

KMMI77

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

in the meantime, we still need more judges!!!!!

Leo, I can help out if you need someone else.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 28 2010 23:12:38

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to KMMI77)

great! thank you kris!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 29 2010 2:16:23

at_leo_87

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RE: need judges for intermediate cha... (in reply to at_leo_87)

4 more days!
would anybody else like to volunteer to judge?
come on, it's fun to pass judgement onto random anonymous people, im sure you do it all the time. except this time, it will actually be constructive.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 1 2011 16:58:00