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Arash

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Manuel Valencia

A new find - Manuel Valencia vids

Jerez Bulerias

Solea por Bulerias

Rondena

seguiriya

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XXX

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

dude hes brilliant. great find.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2010 13:00:05

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

yeah, he is great.
i specially liked the SPB and Bulerias.
the SPB with the alternate tuning is really nice.

and he has some serious asskicking skills.

he reminds me on Diego.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

holy crap... he's really really good. I really hope this kind of stuff represents the future or Flamenco

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2010 13:14:13

rombsix

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

Arash! Gracias amigo! Keep finding such great treasures.

Was he playing a rondena in standard tuning? In E flat, I guess...

It's so funny how the only times the audience went OLE were when he pulled picado runs from hell.

PS: He has braces on! I'd like to see some rasgueados with his teeth!

PPS: Those floor mics are awesome! That's what everyone should use. To hell with the ones that get in the way when they're video taping the players!

PPPS: Isn't that bit where he reaches over to tune with his right hand to keep holding the chord with his left hand awesome?

GOD DAMN! That guy can play! His right hand is so powerful! And his left hand is so powerful as well! Really, unbelievable. SUPER!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2010 15:19:28

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

yes, the Rondena is played in E flat (with a short visit to taranta @ 1.38

)

now that you mention it...those mics are interesting. anyone knows which brand / system?
they are quite far away from him and still the sound is quite bright and very good.

ps: i want that Conde.

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Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to rombsix)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix

It's so funny how the only times the audience went OLE were when he pulled picado runs from hell.

yeah, imo some other parts deserved even more OLEs than those picado parts.

i would probably go OLE all the time then thrown out

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 2:03:20

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

my uncle told me that once he went to a concert from Jason in US.
he was in the first row.

he was so excited that he went Ole non stop lol

and Jason did something like this (of course with a smile and friendly manner), that meant like: "wait a little my friend,,, the OLE part comes next" LOL

Jason, if you should read this, do you remember him ?lol

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XXX

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

ps: i want that Conde.

I like how sharp and "attacky" Condes generally sound in the trebles, but the basses always sound dull especially with not fresh strings like here. Compare the sound with new basses on the Cerreduela ROndena video.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 2:27:40

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to XXX)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

ps: i want that Conde.

I like how sharp and "attacky" Condes generally sound in the trebles, but the basses always sound dull especially with not fresh strings like here. Compare the sound with new basses on the Cerreduela ROndena video.

to be honest, nowadays i prefer exactly this little bit "dull" sound. like one or two week old (ok lets say 1 week lol) strings (not too dull, but not too fresh and buzzy like 1 day old strings either). the thing is, you have to play more powerful. but then you get the best sound imo. this sound is not too messy and like a buzzy motor, but more seperated and defined...... of course, too dull is bad.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 2:43:06

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

but anyway deniz, i know what you mean, same here like Cerreduela :

that bass sound is good too, fresh and nice, but for more rythmical and powerfull playing i prefer i tiny bit duller sound.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 2:54:55

Stu

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

cool! cheers Arash!

whats with the signed guitar??? its a paco signature no??

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 3:20:17

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Stu)

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ORIGINAL: Stu

cool! cheers Arash!

whats with the signed guitar??? its a paco signature no??

Si.

"A mi Amigo Manuel, Paco de Lucia"

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 3:36:54

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

I got a little chill at 1:05 in the bulerias video.... I'm a sucker for good rasgueados lately, then I had to go and practice mine
I also love that sound of the Conde with a little it dull basses

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Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to rombsix)

Ramzi, a note about the tuning: i guess the problem is that if you have a performance and your guitar is tuned normal the whole time, then when for a certain piece you have to tune a string so much deeper (specially like here E to B), then i guess you can be sure that the string won't exactly stay in that tune, not even for the few minutes in the certain piece. the string doesn't have enough time to settle down in that tune.

now that i am talking about this, that might also be a reason why he plays with a little bit elder strings?
because in case of new strings, that problem is even worse if you play with such alternate tunings !
don't know, just guessing

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 5:31:07

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

oh and some info about this guy:

Fernando Terremoto was the uncle of Manuel. Fernando died very young this year (few months ago).

Manuel was accompanying guitarist of his uncle.

you can see him here in the left side

the pieces you see in the videos will be on his CD.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 5:57:59

XXX

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

CD? Its getting better and better. Btw i tried to translate the info text on his bulerias into german. See what came out

quote:

Manuel Valencia wuchs mit einer Gitarre unter dem Arm. Mirrors immer hatte, aber seine stärkste Lehrer war sein Onkel Fernando Erdbeben, verantwortlich zu bringen, um ihm eine Liebe und Hingabe an dieses Instrument jenseits der Logik. Zwar nahm er immer die Gitarre als Hobby betreiben, ist die Tatsache, dass im Laufe der Jahre hat die junge Künstlerin Jerez Qualitäten entwickelt, um im Auge behalten, geht in eines der markantesten Realitäten der aktuellen Flamenco-Szene.

All dies hat Gerardo Núñez diente seiner Arbeitsgruppe, ein Privileg, das nicht verfügbar ist, um alle mitmachen. Regie des genialen Gitarristen, hat Manuel Valencia sprunghaft verbessert in vielen Facetten und Platzen Rhythmusgitarre, Freude und ein hartes soniquete üblich.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 7:53:36

Ailsa

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

Am just listening to the Solea por Bulerias at the mo - absolutely stunning. Is the guitar tuned differently? I'm not very good at figuring out alternate tunings yet.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 7:57:24

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

yeah Ailsa, the Bass E is tuned to B

deniz, lol, google translator is funny sometimes - "Fernando Erdbeben"

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Stu

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

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Si.

"A mi Amigo Manuel, Paco de Lucia"

Weird! so I happened upon a thread from earlier this month about the new diego del morao album and the cigalamusic site has a pic of diego with a signed paco guitar too!!!! http://www.elcigala.com/diegodelmorao/

whats happening??... seems strange to me that pro players would use a signed guitar!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 8:47:16

Stu

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Stu)

so does manuel have an album out????

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 8:50:09

Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

he played other solo pieces in this jerez festival (which are not on youtube)
so i bet was using it also to promote his upcoming CD.
CD is not out yet as far as i can see.

Re. Paco Signatures: i find it specially cool that these pro. guys do that.
I mean normally you would say, they are pros. themselves, they give signatures themselves and are all kickass players. so no need a sig. from another pro. (paco). but that shows how much paco is admired and respected and that everybody knows what he has done for flamenco. so even from those well known guitar players like Diego who have their unique style which differs from Pacos style, you see these signatures. cool thing imo.

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XXX

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

which is just another proof of how cool Paco is

BTW Paco is coming to my near in November, precisely to Leverkusen. Im actually thinking of getting his signature.

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Arash

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to XXX)

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ORIGINAL: Deniz

which is just another proof of how cool Paco is

lol Deniz, lets stop this Pacomania here.
And also no more talk about Conde.
Lets don't attract certain people to destroy a nice thread (including Paco, Conde and all the other nice things in life lol)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 10:20:37

XXX

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

what is even more funnier than Pacomania is to make others believe that there is Pacomania and watch them get mad at it

but yes you are right!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 10:44:29

Ricardo

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Stu)

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whats happening??... seems strange to me that pro players would use a signed guitar!!

you don't know a lot of gypsies I guess. They tend to do things like a group, you know what ever becomes the "cool thing" they all follow suite. Like getting a tatoo or hair cut, or type of clothes, etc. Jesus de Rosario too. The idea is Paco above, and Tomatito below I heard. I guess Manuel has not met Tomatito yet.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2010 18:34:12

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Ricardo)

Does anyone have information regarding the release of Manuel Valencia's cd?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 1 2010 12:05:10

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

For those in Northern California, MANUEL VALENCIA is performing with MANUEL AGUJETAS and MIGUEL EL GITANO DE BRONCE on June 19th in Berkeley.

Also, Manuela Carrasco & Co. is performing in Berkeley on June 15th

http://www.bayareaflamencofestival.com/HOME.html

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orsonw

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to malakka)

The Bayarea Flamenco festival give this biography of Manuel Valencia.

"MANUEL VALENCIA (Guitarrist) Direct from Jerez, one of the most promising young accompanists for Gypsy flamenco singing. They say this young man was born with a guitar under his arm. Seeped in the toque of Manuel Morao, he learned to accompany the cante from his uncle, Fernando Terremoto (hijo). He performed for several years in Morao's company and has toured with Maria de la Mar Moreno. He is currently a member of Gerardo Núñez's group and is working on a solo CD produced by Núñez."

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 1 2010 12:57:05

Ron.M

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RE: Manuel Valencia (in reply to Arash)

quote:

oh and some info about this guy:

Fernando Terremoto was the uncle of Manuel. Fernando died very young this year (few months ago).

Manuel was accompanying guitarist of his uncle.

you can see him here in the left side

It's good stuff, but frankly I think they would be outclassed by some of the Brazilian artists I've heard.

I still like my old Flamenco stuff which NOBODY can beat..

cheers,

Ron

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