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RE: After SEVERAL MONTHS of study....
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szvarga
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RE: After SEVERAL MONTHS of study.... (in reply to Mark2)
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I feel that way about guitarists who do nothing but two handed tapping, in the style of Stanley Jordan. Why don't they just play the piano? It's a novelty to play the guitar that way, but I think if the same music was played on piano, it would be unremarkable at best. Good point. I feel strongly, the proper way to play guitar is play it with flamenco techniques. As I see, acoustic players tries to sound right (or both) hand(s) of a piano player. Electric players tries to simulate violin, or other strings. Others tries to use as a percussion. But, a guitar is not an instrument of independent polyphony like a piano, nor a melody instrument close abilities to human singing, and not a drum set. And still a little both of them. I feel it is its speciality. And only the flamenco way allows to play in its own special way, where it can be a mix of little bit of polyphonic, a little bit of melodic, and a little bit of rhythmic. And the reverse is equally true: if you try to play flamenco on piano, you will loose the melodic and the rhythmic characteristics. On strings, loose the polyphony with rhythmics, and on percussions, all the melodic and the polyphonic side lost. The moment was a revelation for me, when I realized, the guitar and the flamenco are one blood, one body, one soul. And if I want to play the guitar, I have to play it on the flamenco way. And forget everything else. Sz
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Date Jun. 26 2019 17:14:26
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Brendan
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RE: After SEVERAL MONTHS of study.... (in reply to El Burdo)
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She is clear that she doesn’t take herself to have mastered the art, and the face she pulls at the end of the improvised noodle is quite telling. She is hopping about looking for ingredients from here and there to add to her musical larder. We may suspect that gathering the superficial features of many genres is going to end with her making herring and banana tacos on a bed of feta salad marinaded in Thai fish sauce, but that is her problem. For me, none of her noodles sound like the source material, it all sounds like the music on corporate training videos, but as always there are no cops to call. Richard is right, of course, there is no short-cut round the job of learning the language properly. Yo-yo Ma made a bluegrass record called Goat Rodeo, but he didn’t compose any of the music. He left that to native speakers, though he could easily have made superficially bluegrassy noises. Still though, there are a few general pointers that she could have understood. For e.g., flamenco melodies mostly go on journeys away from and back to the root note, and they move by small steps, rarely using any interval bigger than a major third. You quite often get the same little journey repeated and then a similar journey with a bit of extra interest that takes twice as long. Also, flamencos like semi-tone intervals in chords. While jazz voicings tend to smooth out dissonances, flamenco chords play them up, e.g. x-4-7-3-5-0 compared with say x-0-5-6-5-6. Her melodic ideas have large leaps and her chords don’t have the tight little clusters of notes that create the flamenco flavour. So my question was, are there more pointers like these which, while they do not substitute for a proper education, might have helped? Some of the ideas about her piano sound, for e.g.. it lacks the attack and fast fade that give flamenco its rhythmic snap. On the other hand, Chano Dominguez. Misspelling people’s names is very bad. Also, the digestion metaphor doesn’t say anything good about the product so I would have advised against it.
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Date Jun. 27 2019 11:40:12
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