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machopicasso

 

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BPM for Solea por Medio? 

Is there a recognized BPM range for solea por medio?

E.g. what's the slowest and the fastest that a solea can be and still be por medio?
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zendalex

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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to machopicasso) 

Well por medio is not about tempo but chord position on the neck (chord “A” is in the middle of the neck vs por arriba “E” which is towards the top).
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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to machopicasso) 

Source 1 - Average is 160 beats per minute. Lowest is 40 beats per minute. Highest is 280 beats per minute.

Source 2 - Average is 100 beats per minute. Lowest is 80 beats per minute. Highest is 180 beats per minute.

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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to zendalex) 

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ORIGINAL: zendalex

Well por medio is not about tempo but chord position on the neck (chord “A” is in the middle of the neck vs por arriba “E” which is towards the top).

Solea por arriba and por media are the same palo. But differ in tempo? I believe that's what he wants to know.

Solea por medio=Solea por buleria?

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machopicasso

 

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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to zendalex) 

quote:

Well por medio is not about tempo but chord position on the neck


Yeah, but it was my understanding that solea por medio is usually (always?) played at a relatively faster tempo than standard solea, e.g.

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orsonw

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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to machopicasso) 

It depends who you are asking and in what context (as shown by the wide range of tempos Ramzi pointed to).

This is a distinction made by the baile. There is no such palo as Solea por Buleria. When dancers ask for solea they mean very slow solea por arriba and usually Alcala, when they say Solea por Buleria they mean faster por medio and usually Frijones. Now that the dancers have established their definition, yes solea por bulerias means por medio somewhere around 120-170bpm.

Baile has decided that the 'standard' solea tempo is very slow, but por cante the solea tempo is typically much faster. Often when guitar is por medio, cante might start with solea but also include buleria corta, buleria larga.
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RE: BPM for Solea por Medio? (in reply to machopicasso) 

quote:

ORIGINAL: machopicasso

Is there a recognized BPM range for solea por medio?

E.g. what's the slowest and the fastest that a solea can be and still be por medio?


I will be presenting an example in my next Mel Bay book (it has been lying in wait for a year and as of last month the proofs were sent and approved so not sure the hold up now), where the falsetas I present can be played as slow as you need, for example 60 bpm. But, this is rare as even dancers tend to not want to even hear por medio chords out of fear the tempo will naturally rise up to the typical speed of Bulería por soleá.

In fact the example is designed to fill that gap specifically where you might be stuck with a female singer wanting very high pitch and the dancer wanting the proper soleá heavy expression and using like capo 10 is just not practical. I think I play the audio example around 90 bpm or so. What they call today "soleá por bulería" can go anywhere from 100bpm to like 190.

I have a Soleá of paquirri by Aurelio and Ramon Montoya in the 160's, and the Ocón Soledad is marked at 184bpm blurring the lines between solea and buleria proper.

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