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Mark2

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From: San Francisco

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to el ted)

I'm not a lurker, but I have no problem with lurkers, newbies or anyone else. The foro is different things to different people, and it serves all those functions well, IMO. It's nice to listen to uploads, and view the instructional material. Read about new cd's , check out you tube stuff I'd never have seen. And to read the perspectives of other flamenco aficianados.

Sometimes I come up with an idea for an upload but never seem to get around to doing anything about it. I don't feel guilty

I mean, doing all that video recording and editing takes time, and that is in short supply in my case. I salute the guys who have taken the time to do so, no matter if it's to promote themselves, out of a genuine desire to help others, or both.

I have to admit, there was not much help available when I started, and none of it was free. Maybe that's why I don't feel guilty for not contributing more substance. I'm pre napster, when people paid for music, and music instruction had more value. My first flamenco teacher told me of the incredible difficulty and sacrifice his entire family went through in Spain in order for him to study with a flamenco teacher. He told me of guitarists who would hold back their best falsetas, and of guitarists who would teach bulerias falsetas with thirteen beats. All that mystery and difficulty was part of the attraction. "Learn the SECRETS of flamenco guitar!!!" They really were secrets at one time. Now it's all free on the net! Well, not really ALL.

I try to offer my opinion when I think it might be interesting or informative. So, if my or others main desire here is purely entertainment, fellowship, or free lessons, that's all ok IMO. Serious students and players will seek out the info, instruction, and experience they need, and will eventually have to do so beyond an internet forum.

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Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2)

hey this is my last post on this thread and its to ailsa. Sorry i didn't mean to make you use red angry men! Just in a weird mood last night and was tryin to be clever. Was supposed to be a complement! I'd still like to borrow that book. See you sunday.

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koella

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Ailsa

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From: South East England

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Guest)

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ORIGINAL: romerito
two days ago I posted a nice buleria vid with tab and that got no responses but this thread is still ticking.

Kevin I looked for it but couldn't see it - probably just looking for the wrong thing. Can you post the link again so I can take a look? Thanks

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Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Guest) 1 votes

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NOW CAN WE LET THE THREAD DIE

I understand your fustration romerito, some people just go on and on, just dont know when to stop

Nobody post on this thread anymore !!

I pity those people who feel they always have to have the last ......
........................... WORD

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Ailsa

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From: South East England

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Guest)

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ORIGINAL: romerito

Hi Ailsa,

Thanks I can look at it when I get home from work. And sorry I missed it. I do try to look at everything people have contributed. I mean if they've gone to the trouble of doing it, least I can do is look!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2007 8:34:04

andresito

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From: New Holland

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Guest)

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ORIGINAL: Dominic
i made a special thred for all this negativity already.its called the petty greivence thred.

Shut up Dom, you idiot!
Oops... sorry Dom, I meant to post that in the petty grievance thread

On a lighter note, maybe it's nicer that people lurk quietly rather than making trolls of themselves?

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koella

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From: holland

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2)

Romerito, sorry.
I realise you went through a lot of trouble making your practise treads.
I know from experience that tab uploads never seem to inspire people to comment, let alone thank you for it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2007 11:27:40

johnguitars

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From: Michigan,USA

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to el ted) 1 votes

I am new to Flamenco (less than a year) and find this a very important source for learning. I AM THE VILLAGE IDIOT! It is so important to me, and my new addiction that I have made it my home page. I want to thank everyone for existing and sharing. If I can't find by search an answer, I will ask but I am still exploring. I wish I had something of value to share (perhaps I do but I have not found it yet). I am only now begining to understand the mysteries such as "compas" (we have met the enemy and it is us). Thanx to everyone here for "being".

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HemeolaMan

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From: Chicago

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to johnguitars)

awwww john, you aren't the village idiot!

to be a village idiot you have to say stuuuuuupid stuff. lol

you're just new! dont be a stranger, and if you dont have anything rto say, just ask a question, even if its marginal!

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koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to HemeolaMan) 1 votes

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ORIGINAL: HemeolaMan
and if you dont have anything rto say, just ask a question, even if its marginal!

I agree, it's a long way to your first gay joke.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2007 23:49:04

HemeolaMan

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to koella)

wait, koella you're gay???

i thought you were just joking??? hahal ol

i'v ealways wondered, what do you call someone from holland, i mean im american, some people are swedish.... ???

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:04:50

koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2) 1 votes

I don't understand the joke. How do you call someone from Holland ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:11:14

HemeolaMan

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From: Chicago

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to koella)

.... it wasnt a joke......

honestly i dont know, i was hoping you would.....

same thing with someone who is flemish... i assume theres sometihing you call them, but probably not flems lol

so i dont think people from holland are hollish, or hollers, or what have you

do you know?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:14:41

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From: Warsaw, Poland

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to HemeolaMan)

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ORIGINAL: HemeolaMan
so i dont think people from holland are hollish, or hollers, or what have you

Poland - Poles, Holland - Holes? Naaah.

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Ailsa

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From: South East England

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to HemeolaMan)

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ORIGINAL: HemeolaMan
i'v ealways wondered, what do you call someone from holland, i mean im american, some people are swedish.... ???

Well I think people from the Netherlands like to confuse us. I mean there's 'the Netherlands', of which Holland is a region in the north west. And then the people and stuff from there are Dutch. Three different names none of which sound similar. I mean how many names do you need? It's just greedy isn't it?

Waiting for koella's response.

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koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2) 1 votes

Dutch, Hemeola, it's DUTCH.
You slimy, patriotic US bastard.
Don't you have any foreign history lessons, for christsake.

You probably one of those people who thinks Amsterdam is the capital of Denmark and comes here after your retirement to "do" Europe in two weeks and think you can
talk to everyone with just doing some German lessons.

And oh yeah, Iraq is not a province of Africa.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:23:04

koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Ailsa)

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ORIGINAL: Ailsa
Well I think people from the Netherlands like to confuse us. I mean there's 'the Netherlands', of which Holland is a region in the north west. And then the people and stuff from there are Dutch. Three different names none of which sound similar. I mean how many names do you need? It's just greedy isn't it?

For your own information Ailsa.
Netherlands, Holland, and Dutch are English words, made up by english people.
We only say Nederland and Nederlanders.
And Holland is a province. We can't help it that you confuse it with the country's name.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:31:24

HemeolaMan

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From: Chicago

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to koella)

holy **** koella, chill lol

next time i'll just google it.

I like how you assume i'm patriotic. I can't stand my country, its politics, or its foreign policy.

i'm better with the history of the rest of the world than i am with my own.

excuse my momentary slip. your dutchness.

dutch dutch dutch dutch, there i'll never forget again!

however, i dont speak german, just french and spanish.

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koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2) 1 votes

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HemeolaMan

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to koella)

oh you lousy piece of ****!!! you were messin with me!!!

bahhh! I've been had by a gay dutchman!!!!!! lol

lol

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Ailsa

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to HemeolaMan)

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ORIGINAL: HemeolaMan
I've been had by a gay dutchman!!!!!!

Well this is what I call a gay thread. And that's fine. You know, nothing to be ashamed of boys.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:43:11

koella

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2)

C'est drole n'est pas ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2007 0:44:09

HemeolaMan

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RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to koella)

je pense que c'est trés drole, koella.

jo quiero más !

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dyst0pian

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From: Quebec, Canada

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to Mark2)

i find it kind of absurd to see otherwise intelligent people fighting on the internet.
but what do i know,
je ne suis qu'un simple guitariste paresseux.

-Pierre-Luc Magnan

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HemeolaMan

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From: Chicago

RE: Proposition concerning lurkers (in reply to dyst0pian)

why does being a lazy guitarist have any bearing on your opinion on an unrelated matter?

i would say your opinion matters despite your level of laziness, or guitaredness lol

but, if i may ask, who are you referring to?

i'm glad you find us absurd!!

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