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Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - photos...
OK, it's ready, took me four hours to sort this drunken pile into some sort of meaning.
What can I say? This why we are doing what we are. It gave me goosebumps. I am not a "clubby" sort of guy but this was the dog's dangly bits. A mis amigos, you were better company than I ever imagined.
RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
Great photos and clips Simon! Thanks for making it available as streaming video for us rural buggers who don't yet have wideband available. To Emma, great looking guitar! To Estela, you look great! To Simon, I'd watchit with Big Don's daughter if I were you. He looks like the sort of guy who would rip your head off and spit down your windpipe then go for a beer after, if you know what I mean....
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RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Ron.M)
You're welcome Ron, I hope you got a sense of the occasion.
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To Simon, I'd watchit with Big Don's daughter if I were you. He looks like the sort of guy who would rip your head off and spit down your windpipe then go for a beer after, if you know what I mean....
Funny you should say that. He did chaperone rather closely and I could not get him to retire early. Sorry Don.
As he and I chatted over a fino, discussing the merits of the Conde he had just bought, he tells me he shot a grizzly the previous week - "Damn thing kept raiding the fridge".
Though he was most impressed when I told him my dog could sort out his mountain lion problem.
RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
Hi Simon, that was great, what nice memories!
The Moneo´s and the Carpios were very friendly with us, and made us experience something wich is not something you can buy or pay for. That is really what flamenco is about and we were able to experience it first hand. You can watch Tomatito or Jose Merce in a concert but what can really make you understand what flamenco is and where it comes from is just by been in Jerez and sharing a juerga with them. Simon, I think we should keep in contact with them and send them a copy of the videos. I am sure they will remember us next year and will delight us with their cante.
I hope next year more people can get together, specially you guys who live so far like the States or Australia.
Thanks Simon for your effort.
Melchor
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RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Melchor)
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think we should keep in contact with them and send them a copy of the videos
I have Manuel Moneo's address and will send a print to him and the pena - I'll try and make a short video tape for them. Was the second singer a Carpio? Give me his name and I will update the site.
RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
Thank you Simon 'El Presidente' Shearston!!! So many good memories.
On the inside cover of Robin's book it says "How are you going to be able to talk about Spain after you've actually been there". Great to share. Thanks.
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RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
Oups Simon, watch out with that street credibility.
Siguiriyas are actually faster than soleares if you count all 12 beats in the compas. Some 90 - 100 for soleares and 130 - 140 for siguiriyas. The just have this slow feeling because normally you don´t count all 12 beats, but the 8, 10, 12, 3, 6 or 8, 10, 12, 2,3, 5,6, but this doesn´t change the original cycle.
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RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Guest)
Thanks Anders, I don't think I mean't what I think you think I meant
We noticed the soleares is played much slower than we would have expected in Jerez. Perhaps the Solo Compas soleares comes from Jerez - I think it's at about 70 bpm, but I can't look it up at work.
It seems to be a trend for a guitarist to play too fast. The constant call from Jaime, our friendly singer, was "mas tranquillo".
Street cred? Huh, I am a newbie, still learning after all these 18 months.
RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
you're right simon "mas tranquilo" was the lesson of the festival for me too. Also remember Rafa from Cadiz told me I was playing a solea tempo and feel typical of Jerez - he said that they like solea to be slower in Jerez than Cadiz. Melchor said I should take that as a compliment haha....which is rubbish i've so much to learn.
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RE: Foro Flamenco in Jerez 2004 - ph... (in reply to Escribano)
haha shall i pretend to blush Sean O'Brian's your man. He originally put me on to Rafael Lopez - although on this trip I kept Jonathan and Simon out guitar shopping all day - que tan chica mala (if I got a euro for every time...)
I had to play the guitar and loads of others to realise that nothing else i'd played in that price range was close, but I suppose these things are personal too. 'She' is beautiful and 'she' will sound better when I do. Rafa said 'she' was definately a 'she'.
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