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John O.

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Favorite modern cante albums1 votes

Thanks for the idea, Romerito!

As I don't have much of a clue what's out there, just wanted to have some opinions from you guys. My 3 favs:

Pitingo con Habichuelas
Esperanza Fernandez (she's been working on a new one for quite some time now, I'm painfully waiting for it)
Angel Pastor - Todos hablarán de mi

Anyone else have some tips?

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Pitingo con Habichuelas

Mi canteY un poema (Estrella Morente)

Mi forma de vivir (Duquende)

...thats if we have to stick to 3. and whats modern? 80s-90s-2000?

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John O.

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to duende

Ah heck put all your favorites up, as many as you like! Next time I get a raise or a bonus I'll order them all at once!

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Hola

Angel de los Santos Pastor, de la familia de Agujetas, is one of my favourite traditional singers. He called me to a meeting with him and his primo Bernardo because he wanted me to produce this record. He is influenced by fashion and wanted percussion and modern instruments. I refused to produce it because I felt that his style of cante should be treated with respect. I recommended that he talk with Diego Magallanes who is also from the Barrio de Santa Maria , but aficionado de flamenquito and socio of the producer Paco Ortega.

He took the advice, but every time I listen to the record , it pains me to hear the production, for example the inappropiate piano solo in the middle of the seguiriyas.

The guitarist, Juani de la Isla is great and a record por derecho with just the two of them and palmas would have suited Angel much better.

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John O.

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Guest

I know where you're coming from, Sean. To be completely honest the title track is my favorite but the intro sounds like the intro to a game show . Can you or anyone recommend an album of his with little or no arrangments in case he's ever done one?

Thanks for the tips Romerito, Duende. Mir forma de vivir I have too, it's great. I'm looking for any and all cante. Every time the German magazine Anda comes out (every 2 months) I buy the couple of CD's they recommend. This way though I can get them all at once, hehe...

Some other favs:

José Mercé - Del Amanecer
Miguel Poveda - Viento del Este
La Tana - Tu, ven a mi
Mayte Martín - Querencia

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Nano de Jerez - Alreo de la Fragua
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Florian

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Guest

Hi i have some more in addition to the others that were added, not mentioning the ones everyone expects to be great by now, Duquende, Potitio, El Cigala, Arcanghel etc..

Juaneke --- Chicuelo accompaning
Secundo falcon ---- Paco Jarana accompaning

But i really think is that what makes a album modern is not the cante is just the guitarist used, because that builds the air around the cante. Except for Pitingos album where they went the other way, the guitar was pretty simple and taimed (not meant in a criticising way, it worked perfect and it was done perfect), and the Cante was the most inovative

u can get the most traditional singer and put him in with a modern accompanist and it will be a modern cante album.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 10 2007 5:42:38
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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Hola

Angel has made one record only. He is talking about another but probably in a similar vein.

Ricardo Rivera, one of the best young guitarists from Cádiz, recently gave me a CD in which he participated and produced: Julián Estrada,Donde queda el puente, Montoya Musical, 2005. Guest guitarists, apart from Ricardo, are El Bolito and Manolo Franco.

Suerte

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Ricardo

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Diego Cigala's last album had 2 nice bulerias, one with Paco accomp and one with Tomatito.

The fusion project "Qawwali Flamenco" has a few nice straight ahead flamenco performances with Chicuelo, Duquende, and Miguel Poveda.

Oh sorry, those are RECENT releases. If you just mean favorites in a modern style?:

Camaron:Vivire
Indio Gitano: Naci Gitano...with Nunez.
Jose Merce: Amanacer with Vicente
Luis El Zambo:Gloria Bendita...actually he sings old style. But it is a "modern" recording, so really one of my favorites.
Pepe De Lucia:orgullo de me pare...not my favorite singer, but some great guests.
Remedios Amaya: Me Voy Contigo with Vicente. Now every girl singer sounds like this. But this was one of the first smooth recordings, nice playing and production, nice estribillos etc.
Carmen Linares with Gerardo: I like Gerardo so cool arrangements, but this Maestra has better recordings.
Duquende:Samaruco with Paco and Cañizares.


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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Well usually I run away whenever any singer open his mouth.


But I like some pieces, too. For example the tangos from Tomatito which his daughter sings. I like the CD "picasso" of Diego. And the alegrias on one of the first albums of nino de pura.

Duqende shouts too much.. As J. Merce. You can scare me with them...

Well.. And I like some old singing of these black and white videos from youtube.

La tana crys too much I think... I saw a gig of her some month ago and she trashed the whole concert with her shouting. It sounded like an angry old housewife...

I would never buy any music coz of a singer...
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John O.

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Doitsujin

Doitsujin as we know and love him
I do love your honesty, man.

Thanks all for the tips! I'll be checking all this stuff out!

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Del Amanecer (jose merce)
Samaruco (duquende)
and the one the with Duquende and Tomatito is also quite good but i think samaruco is better.

Vivere /camaron
como el agua

i like the soundtrack to the movie "Agujetas" not modern but good with moraito

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to duende

One of my fav. flamenco singers...

Miguel Poveda- Tierra De Calma
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Jasmine_27

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Here's my top 3 contemporary singers, with albums I've especially enjoyed:

Carmen Linares - Antologia
Mayte Martin - Tiempo de Amar has a great duet with Omara Portuondo
Miguel Poveda - Zaguan

Guitar? El Viejin!
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John O.

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Jasmine_27

Thanks again everyone, just got 6 out of the thread in the mail and am checking Montse's first CD. Good stuff. And she's hot

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

quote:

am checking Montse's first CD. Good stuff.

Yes, it has the seemingly obligatory Brazilian and/or Cuban type numbers, but it's all good. The soleá is great.
quote:

And she's hot

Calentita!

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Arash

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

I am not so much into cante but for me the best male voices are from Duquende and Jose Merce.

And this is my favourite song with female voices! Falete and Nina Pastori
Beautiful



I also like Montse Cortes with Diego del Morao

I admit that normally i only hear cante if it is combined with nice guitar music and not only some Chords!!

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Ricardo

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Arash

quote:

And this is my favourite song with female voices! Falete and Nina Pastori
Beautiful





Yes, beautiful, but you know Falete is a MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had to google him/her to be sure though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falete
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John O.

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Estevan

quote:

it has the seemingly obligatory Brazilian and/or Cuban type numbers


Oh, maybe I have a different one? Is Albanza her first? There are a couple of good bulerias, couple of tangos, taranta, seguiriya...

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Hi everyone, this is my first post on this forum. This was a useful thread. I discovered a few great new albums. I don't think anyone mentioned two of my favorites:

El Pele and Vicente Amigo: Canto; Poetas de Esquinas Blandas.

I heard these when I first started listening to flamenco past the usual solo guitar albums and it's what got me hooked into the cante. I also have to say my initial reaction was that Vicente is better when he's accompanying :)
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Estevan

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

quote:

Oh, maybe I have a different one?

No, that's the one - Alabanza.

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Arash

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

@Ricardo .....oops! lol


@Maissam, Hi welcome, khosh amadi!
Tell me, is the name of your father Sina or Sasan ???

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Maissam

 

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Arash

haha merci. it's sina. i guess you know Behnam...he lives close to my parents so I see him a lot when I go back home.
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Arash

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to Maissam

small world...

Ok, so you know who i am

Cool that you are here Maissam....I also saw that you are (or was?) a member of Jason McGuires page! Me too!

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JDiaz

 

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Niña Pastori, prob my fav. female singer.

great song!
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Jan Willem

 

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RE: Favorite modern cante albums (in reply to John O.

Has someone listened to the !new! Juan Habichuela record? I'm very curious cause Juan is one of my favorite guitarists. If so, you can comment:)

1)I like Estrella Morente with ...who else...Juan habichuela. En lo alto del cerro......there was an video on you tube but it has dissapeared. In fact....I have to admit I'm secretly in love with this women............
2)Jose merce, but not for his singing but for Moraito
3) Pitingo con habichuela's except for the soul songs- too pop for me-
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