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Guitarist
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Joined: Jan. 18 2007
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Questions about Home Training System
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Hi everyone, I'm a beginner in the flamenco world and I really need help because there is so much to practice in Flamenco music! If I were to practice all that I needed: Right hand, left hand, rasguedos, picado, scales, chords, I would need about 3 hours a day and maybe more! Perhaps I am doing it the wrong way! I am trying to create a daily training system to cover all the flamenco guitarist's skills. But all the time that I can give is only two hours a day. So I will start with some basic knowledge: Skill 1: Techniques (Right and left hands, rasguedos, picado, scales, chords) The techniques should be separated in two divisions: 1- Review what already learnt. (30 minutes) 2- Learning new technique. (30 minutes) Skill 2: Playing Solos (listening, reading and playing notes) The playing should be separated in two divisions also: 1- Review what already learnt. (30 minutes) 2- Learning new solos. (30 minutes) To be specified, here are my questions: 1- What do you think about my system mentioned above and expected results? 2- Should I work on the Chords and Scales, or they will come with the time as a result of playing solos? 3- If anyone has a training system, please describe it here with time details if possible? Thanks a lot, Guitarist
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Date May 22 2007 12:15:00
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John O.
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From: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany
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RE: Questions about Home Training System (in reply to Guitarist)
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There are so many different systems and styles of teaching, makes it tough to know what's best for you. I can only give a tip based on what helped/helps me: You should ask yourself if you want to eventually accompany dance and song or just play pieces for solo guitar. Spend loads of time with rhythms as a beginner. Learn loads of different rasgueado/tresillos in the different palos, concentrating on one at a time, spending lots of time on each one learning as many simple falsetas as you can. Get a flamenco metronome for your computer for practising. I split my technique practise into 6 parts: picado, thumb, arpeggio, rasgueado, tresillo, tremolo. I incorporate things I want to learn into this technique practise, meaning different falsetas that are fit for certain techniques. For you as a beginner though I'd say it's important to learn the basic scales and chords, understand their relationships to each other as well as practise dry technique. There are some great books out there for beginners and intermediate players from Oscar Herrero and Gerhard Graf-Martinez to name just a couple. The best of course is to look for a flamenco dance school in your area and find out if they work with guitarists - then you'll have your own teacher! Hope this helps, John
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Date May 22 2007 13:37:31
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: Questions about Home Training System (in reply to Guitarist)
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quote:
To be specified, here are my questions: 1- What do you think about my system mentioned above and expected results? 2- Should I work on the Chords and Scales, or they will come with the time as a result of playing solos? 3- If anyone has a training system, please describe it here with time details if possible? 1. You should not be trying to learn complete "solo" pieces. Your focus should be on compas (rhythmic strumming), and falsetas (very short melodic pieces). A solo can be constructed or improvised even, after many of the above has been mastered. 2.If you don't know how to play basic open chords, work on that first, switching them in rhythm. Scales not so important unless you feel a need to learn the neck well for improvising in a jazz way. Otherwise, the neck reveals itself to you intime learning fasletas and pieces of music not even flamenco related. Again, don't try to learn flamenco through complete solo pieces like one would do in classical guitar. 3. 2hours is all you got, so ONE hour just doing COMPAS strumming. Old patterns, new patterns, bulerias, solea, tangos, whatever you know or want to learn. Then the 2nd hour work on FALSETAS, old or new. That is it. Ricardo
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Date May 22 2007 19:02:53
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wiseguy493
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Joined: May 9 2007
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RE: Questions about Home Training System (in reply to Guitarist)
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My opinions =) I think the first 6 months at least should be spent learning the most traditional falsettas and learning the ins and outs of the compas for the most essential palos (Soleares, Seguiriyas, Bulerias, Alegrias, Tangos, Tientos are what I think are most essential). Any method book can teach you this, Manuel Granados is commonly known as one of the best but also kind of expensive. I would avoid Juan Martin's method books, this are very sub-par. Gerhard Graf-Martinez is OK if you can find them for a low price. While learning these traditional falsettas, you will also pick up most of the basic techniques. Once you master these falsettas and learn to feel the compas, you should start learning solos. As you learn solos, it's not so important to learn to play the solo as it is written, the purpose of flamenco solos are to learn the ideas. So when you learn a solo, say Soleares, mix it with the other material you already know. Learn a solo one falsetta at a time, mixing it with your own material, and with falsettas from other solos from other players. This gives you more diversity in your playing and will help you understand how to compose your own solos and improvise. Whether you plan to play with singers or dancers or not, you should still learn about these arts because it will help you understand compas and is very important. You should also practice accompanying palmas, and clapping the palmas yourself. Understanding these counter-rhythms is essential for playing Bulerias and the more advanced Tangos, Zapateado and other palos. One thing to be sure of, flamenco does not come quickly. It takes a passion to learn it and you have to be dedicated to it. If you can't play more than 2 hours a day (this is sufficient) you should still listen to flamenco whenever you can. Put some solos on your MP3 player, learn to recognize them by how they sound, and expose yourself to it at every opportunity. Good luck to ya!
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Date May 24 2007 0:35:53
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