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Question for Ricaro and other knowledgable accompanyists
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Ricardo
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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
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RE: Question for Ricaro and other kn... (in reply to John O.)
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Experience will make it easier for you. I worked with dancers that gave me videos before. Usually I would fall asleep in front of the TV. I found it much quicker studying the dance in person, making mistakes and fixing them a long the way until I knew what the dancer needed or did not need. Eventually you don't need to memorize, you understand the basic structure and are very watchfull at certain moments, relaxed and improvising during others. I have seen dancers write their choreography on paper, but really good dancers that understand flamenco well, don't do that. I have seen at least one guitarist write things down, and singers write letras on their hand. One gypsy I know typed out the letras really big on a piece of paper and used a music stand! But he was not comfortable doing that. If you have to do that, than it is because the dancer is relying on a specific music that was meant for other musicians. Flamenco should be flexible enough so ANY guitarist or singer who knows what they are doing, can just do their thing and watch for cues. I look at the tablao gigs as a time to "rehearse" and try out new things in front of an audience. With that focus, I learn very quick. But usually what happens to me is a big theatre show comes up, every dancers wants me to memorize a new special choreography, sometimes I also work with new people I never met before, and all in just a couple days. Very stressfull. The only thing I ever wrote down though was the set list for the show. One time I did not and I had A LOT of stuff on my mind, and started the intro for the wrong number. Anyway, just do whatever you feel you have to do the best job you can. People learn choreography in spain, from some maestra that has HER musicians she works with all the time. But really, it is meant to just come together with no rehearsal or memorization on the musicians part. Ricardo
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Date Jun. 8 2006 16:08:13
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Miguel de Maria
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Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ
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RE: Question for Ricaro and other kn... (in reply to John O.)
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Johno, I don't really accompany, but I have observed the dynamic at least here in town. From what I can tell, the professional dancers are fairly supportive of bringing up a guitarist, because there is a shortage of guitarists who can accompany. So it just might be worth their while to invest a little time with you, and their return would then having a "trained" guitarist they can call upon. I'm not saying they are going to teach someone from the ground up, but with your formidable guitar skills, good compas, and good attitude, I would be surprised if you don't find some you can work with a little. I attended a workshop with Marija Temo, and it was called "Flamenco Communication." Basically she was just saying what Ricardo said, which is you want to get to a level where flamenco can be spontaneous, everyone knows his/her role, and you just jam. Kind of like two guitarists can get together, say "Entre Dos Aguas?" and just jam for 10 minutes! But it seems to me at least, that some of this experience you just have to go and get... Don't be too shy, John. In my opinion, you should just get out there.
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Date Jun. 9 2006 18:03:18
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