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I have seen this when it came out as I follow Marcin Dylla as classical guitarist who wants to stay updated. He is a wonderful performer and soloist of our times.
Very good version indeed. BUT sorry, between us, there is something missing from this version. I also felt this way when I played the concierto with a piano for my classical guitar diploma concert more than 15 years ago. Marcin is playing it perfectly, the duo too, but something is missing. Maybe it is the vomit missing, who knows
The John Williams, I think second recording attempt, was the one that hit me very hard as a teenager. I literarily cried and promised to play this piece someday.
Later of course I heard Paco's version and that was the one I tried to copy for the exams.
I think John Williams had a better orchestra sound in the recording, but Paco is Paco in eternity... So if I had to choose one, I would choose Paco's version even with a little smell of vomit
Very good version indeed. BUT sorry, between us, there is something missing from this version.
It is definitely an improvement in terms of typical timing of this thing. You don't have those soft entries of the strings, it is all a percussive attack that needs to be together so not as much room for rubato. However, the guy still slows down in the typical spots...and the tempo of the first and third are two slow for the dance feel (people think Paco's version is fast to show off his scales, but the scales are slow for him. It is the strumming that needs to feel right, and a little too slow it feels awkward). I do like the idea of the guitar trio, perhaps they could have traded "lead" parts rather than relegate the string and horn parts to the other two.
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I also felt this way when I played the concierto with a piano for my classical guitar diploma concert more than 15 years ago.
Sounds like your story is very similar to mine. My piano player was very good rhythmically and I struggled to keep up with him...but we were also using Paco's version. I remember doing the entire thing with a pick so we had it together at speed. But finger style was new to me and I screwed up nicely for the concerto competion but the jury thing for my grade went very well.
I have to admit though, my favorite classical guitarist was Williams and I was frankly disappointed at how much he simplified (dumbed down) the harder parts of the concerto. I mean considering how good he is compared to others I thought it was like he really did not care about this piece. It was almost comical to me, things like moving that high chord down an octave and etc.
Very good version indeed. BUT sorry, between us, there is something missing from this version.
It is definitely an improvement in terms of typical timing of this thing. You don't have those soft entries of the strings, it is all a percussive attack that needs to be together so not as much room for rubato. However, the guy still slows down in the typical spots...and the tempo of the first and third are two slow for the dance feel (people think Paco's version is fast to show off his scales, but the scales are slow for him. It is the strumming that needs to feel right, and a little too slow it feels awkward). I do like the idea of the guitar trio, perhaps they could have traded "lead" parts rather than relegate the string and horn parts to the other two.
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I also felt this way when I played the concierto with a piano for my classical guitar diploma concert more than 15 years ago.
Sounds like your story is very similar to mine. My piano player was very good rhythmically and I struggled to keep up with him...but we were also using Paco's version. I remember doing the entire thing with a pick so we had it together at speed. But finger style was new to me and I screwed up nicely for the concerto competion but the jury thing for my grade went very well.
I have to admit though, my favorite classical guitarist was Williams and I was frankly disappointed at how much he simplified (dumbed down) the harder parts of the concerto. I mean considering how good he is compared to others I thought it was like he really did not care about this piece. It was almost comical to me, things like moving that high chord down an octave and etc.
I get your points and we went through them before, however I’d like to say if this arrangement was played by three heavyweights of flamenco guitar and they traded the melody back and forth with proper rageo it would be dynamic.
As it is, I like arrangement because I never had the Chrysler Cordova commercial play in my head, but rather I got a hit of a Clint Eastwood Italian western. And that was enough for me to buy into it.
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