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metalhead

 

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What do you do for a living? 

I don't think everybody here is a pro guitarist, the ones who aren't what do you for a living?

Also check in if you're a pro
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Stu

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

I work in the film industry.
Lighting/Electrical for TV and movies. Probably some you've seen.

It can be terrible for my nails!

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Manitas de Lata

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Banking/Insurance

sick of corporate world..

Give me sun , nice temperature and music..
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Piwin

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Basically anything and everything that has to do with language. Just biding my time until AI replaces me lol

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JasonM

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

My job title is cartographer, but making maps is not what I do exactly, although I do work with them.
Im a government worker at the Department of Defense. My office produces Nautical charts and maritime navigation info used by the Navy mostly, and some merchant ships. These days everything is digital and full of writing python scripts and emails. I miss the days of working with real objects and being on the water.

My end goal is to work for the park service picking up trash or something easy and outside.
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BarkellWH

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to JasonM

quote:

My job title is cartographer, but making maps is not what I do exactly, although I do work with them. Im a government worker at the Department of Defense. My office produces Nautical charts and maritime navigation info used by the Navy mostly, and some merchant ships. These days everything is digital and full of writing python scripts and emails. I miss the days of working with real objects and being on the water.


Sounds interesting, Jason. Do you have any interest in or collect old (antique) maps and nautical charts? I have always thought of them as works of art.

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

I've been retired since the end of 2009. I had a 43-year career as an engineer, scientist and manager in the defense business.

During the first 25 years of it I became one of the go-to guys to defeat the Soviet strategic missile defenses. Toward the end of that phase I had a consulting business, then I was part of a small employee-owned R&D firm. My clients were engineering vice presidents of big companies, or Assistant Secretaries, Subsecretaries, etc. of Defense, or equivalent foreign officials.

When the Cold War ended I moved as a civilian contractor to the Army's most high tech base in the Central Pacific. I switched from figuring out how to defeat radars and other sensors to operating, maintaning and modernizing some of the planet's most pwerful, precise and complex radars, eventually managing about 250 people.

Before settling down and getting married at age 28 I majored in Mathematics and Physics at the University of Texas. I was in Grad School and taught Mathematics there when I was 19.

After the University I was in the U.S. Army (Combat Engineers) for less than two years

I was recruited to work for an Agency of the U.S. Government in Central America. We were supposed to be rooting out Cuban cadres who were converting villagers to communism. After a couple of years I concluded there weren't any Cubans there: it was just a continuation of the 4 1/2 century war of the white people against the Indians.

This and a couple of other events radicalized me, so I lived as an outlaw for a few years in the '60s before I fell in love, got married, and more or less rejoined the mainstream at age 28.

RNJ
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kitarist

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to JasonM

quote:

My job title is cartographer


I just learned yesterday that a collection of maps is called an atlas in an homage (by Mercator of the Mercator projection) to Atlas, the titan who was condemned by Zeus to hold up the celestial spheres (the sky).

And that because the celestial spheres were depicted as a ball in a popular sculpture of Atlas (i.e. him somehow being outside the spheres rather than standing on Earth supporting the sky from inside/under the spheres), there is a common misconception that Atlas is holding up the Earth on his shoulders.

I work for the government at the provincial ministry of environment, more specifically on policies to do with mitigation of greenhouse-gas emissions / human-induced climate change.

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Manitas de Lata

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to BarkellWH

theres a lot of people lookin for old (with interest) maps , i was one , its very hard to get one at a nice price , theres allways someone to pay more
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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Air Traffic Controller, part time transcriber
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BarkellWH

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

My entire professional life has been concerned with foreign affairs and national security. Aside from university, I spent several years in the US Air Force with an intelligence element intercepting Soviet communications. After leaving the Air Force, I spent a career as a diplomat in the U.S. Foreign Service and Department of State, spending about two-thirds of the time in American Embassies overseas and one-third back in Washington at the State department and the Defense Department at the Pentagon.

My first assignment in the U.S. Foreign Service was at our Embassy in Sofia, Bulgaria during the height of the Cold War, with subsequent overseas assignments in Maritime Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines) and a couple of assignments in Latin America. After retiring from the Foreign Service, I have done temporary duty consulting gigs with the State Department and the Defense Department that have taken me all over, both domestically and overseas.

Bill

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JasonM

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to BarkellWH

quote:

Sounds interesting, Jason. Do you have any interest in or collect old (antique) maps and nautical charts? I have always thought of them as works of art.


They are works of art. I have an interest in local area of the Chesapeake, and old maps of Baltimore. But I cant say I have a note worthy collection on display but I have a few pieces.

State department - I was actually assisting their maritime boundary division the other week. They work with contested waters. Guess what region of the world that might be? lol

Air Traffic Controller! Whoa, very cool!
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JasonM

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to kitarist

quote:

I just learned yesterday that a collection of maps is called an atlas in an homage (by Mercator of the Mercator projection) to Atlas, the titan who was condemned by Zeus to hold up the celestial spheres (the sky).

And that because the celestial spheres were depicted as a ball in a popular sculpture of Atlas (i.e. him somehow being outside the spheres rather than standing on Earth supporting the sky from inside/under the spheres), there is a common misconception that Atlas is holding up the Earth on his shoulders.

I work for the government at the provincial ministry of environment, more specifically on policies to do with mitigation of greenhouse-gas emissions / human-induced climate change


Very interesting! Partly explains why you are a master of data and graphs! :)

Atlas - Cool! I figured there was some correlation to "Big" but never put the two together formally.
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Filip

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

I'm a software engineer.
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silddx

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Fascinating to read what you people do for a living.

I'm a Fire, Health and Safety Adviser for a London University. I love my work, and I work in a wonderful little Health and Safety team. It involves providing a lot of legal and strategic advice to senior leadership and staff, technical advice, problem solving, developing and delivering training for staff and students, fire safety compliance auditing, risk assessment and analysis, lots of reporting and analysis, liaison with insurers, external auditors, and the fire and rescue service, developing programmes to ensure continual improvement in safety compliance, the list goes on ...
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hamia

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Quit my job as a geophysicist a couple years ago and am now a day trader.
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Ricardo

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to kitarist

quote:

there is a common misconception that Atlas is holding up the Earth on his shoulders.


I thought he was holding up that silver Ball that contained Van Halen?

Anyway I am a Flamenco guitarist in Wash. DC, since 1997. Most of my income has shifted to coming from Rumba gigs, which I never minded doing in the past, it was just the Pandemic shut down the dancer gigs, from which I used to make 50% of my income pretty much. That plus, the next gen dancers don’t actively get gigs/shows, and are few and far between. End of on era around these parts.



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edguerin

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

@metalhead: interestingly you haven't yet mentioned what you do

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Stu

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to edguerin

quote:

@metalhead: interestingly you haven't yet mentioned what you do



Ermm... Neither have you.
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metalhead

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to edguerin

i'm a student currently studying cs
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Manitas de Lata

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

whats cs?
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metalhead

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to Manitas de Lata

computer science
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edguerin

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

quote:

Ermm... Neither have you.

Now that metalhead has, so will I
(Those round here long enough (like you Stu) might remember previous posts, where I've mentioned my trade )
I worked as a psychiatrist, psychoanalytic therapist, and forensic expert 'till retirement 6 years ago.
I studied Geology, then Anthropology, and Sanscrit/Pali/Burmese for a couple of years before going to medical school after having decided not to stay in a Buddhist monastery in Thailand.

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metalhead

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to Ricardo

you must be doing a hell lot of gigs to have 50% income come from gigs since I've heard most people say gigs make very few bucks. Most say it comes from teaching. and after the pandemic ended, the dancing scene never picked up again?
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metalhead

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

woah, that sounds HUGELY interesting but also very stressful i think?
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metalhead

 

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to Manitas de Lata

sounds like a stressful field, do u manage to play flamenco everyday?
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Escribano

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

Ex-Apple and Microsoft, now self-employed, semi-retired living in Italy messing about with guitars, photography, programming and IoT.

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Ricardo

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

quote:

ORIGINAL: metalhead

you must be doing a hell lot of gigs to have 50% income come from gigs since I've heard most people say gigs make very few bucks. Most say it comes from teaching. and after the pandemic ended, the dancing scene never picked up again?


No you miss read that. Nearly 100% of my income was from gigs. I teach more for fun and do make some money there that amounts to maybe gas money or something. I used to get gigs from and for Dancers before the pandemic. Things were already starting to wind down right before the pandemic, so I was already doing more Rumba at the time. I was at certain times in the last 20 years, performing 5 or 6 days a week regularly, with a fairly steady income, trying to split it between venues because when one gig goes down, I can’t afford to lose it all at once. Meanwhile, school shows and special events/projects will be extra (I have had 3 gigs in one day sometimes) income. I would get my minimum fee to take off from a gig (usually triple my weekly pay or more, but often got more) and get a sub. Professional dancers were constantly active and getting projects going and we would negotiate through a heirarchy of professionals getting the best available people for whatever job. Often students were around to help with subbing etc. There were several people around who could do Rumba singing and guitar so, those gigs were as frequent as the flamenco gigs, so I felt about a 50/50 balance between the two projects. In 2018 for example, I had two big contracts back to back, where not only did I make big bucks, but I could afford to finally pay my people what they deserved for a gig. One was a Rumba/jazz fusion type show and the other was a flamenco guitar concert where I introduced the dancers at various times. Very different repertoire but that is how I basically viewed my pro career. I would also apply and receive artistic grants for my pieces. (2-6k type awards).

In 2019 when my regular singer suddenly (and disrespectfully IMO) quit on me, I started singing myself. I gave him a 1099 for 18k that year (for the previous year’s work)….that was only gigs I paid HIM for, there were many he got paid separate (just to give you an idea) and he also did his own projects without me, and I had used other singers too. Since the pandemic I have only done a few flamenco projects, so it is now feeling more like my income is 80% rumba group or solo gigs. The social distancing situation allowed me to do Rumba stuff pretty easy, but the dancing network did not recover. Many of the pro dancers have gotten day jobs, my wife included.

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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

It can be stressful, but all the training is designed so you can react well to unexpected situations and are able to concentrate on your task. I work one of the biggest airports so there's plenty to deal with, but then I'm typically not the character who gets overly stressed about things, that helps. Even those more prone to stress learn to overcome it. It's a bit like being a performing artist, when I first played in front of a crowd I was extremely nervous, then a few more, then it became second nature after a while.
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Manitas de Lata

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RE: What do you do for a living? (in reply to metalhead

im taking another degree , and im a father too.. i stopped my dailly workout (home gym) 3 months ago.. therefore i started training again, also did jiu jitsu and rug.y
some weeks i arrive early to work , so i play half hour.
my lunch is quick so i pratice at least half hour
the time for watching tv etc its allways with a guitar , at least more 2 hours a day
some weekends many hours
still sounds like **** :)

1 month with this playing routine and helped a lot ! Many many years playing just very few times...due to some frustration and other interests .
So you have to know yourself first...
I have two main issues... im not gifted , im a "fast" learner , so i can desmotivate when i can achieve some things fast, and in this case i have very very good taste in music (many genres) so i was allways trying to playing huge stuff that wasnt apropriate to my level....
So , what did i do to stop this... stop thinkin on that... and just have fun...if you have more fun youll play more... and you progress more, if i like Oasis so lets play some Oasis , if i like pink floyd lets try some etc..
I managed that , and i gave another try to flamenco (something that i wanted since i listen to Paco at 199? ) , a serious try this time.
Think this way , when you start pratice you feell like **** , cause you need to warm up.... if you play for example half hour during the day its more easier to study later for an hour or two, and each day cames easier.
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