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Morante

 

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Bad taste 

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 15:53:40
 
RobF

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

Yep, that be tick tock tacky alright.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 16:09:18
 
silddx

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

It's f*****g vile!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 16:16:05
 
RobF

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

To be fair, it’s mainly the bordering on the top that throws it. I’ve never been much of a fan of overtly ornate inlay work, however, or the cartoonish style that seems to attach itself to it. I love watchmaking, I have a collection of Railroad pocket watches dating back to 1886, but I’d rather admire a nice old Howard or Martin separately and on their own merits. To each their own, I guess.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 16:21:57
 
orsonw

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

I understand they're trying to show of their making skills, but it is ugly. For me their 1 million guitar is better:



Not that I am adverse to some bling, but I asked Jero Perez to make this rosette design for me. Sometimes I think I made it too simple!
I just got a Manuel Bellido. I wouldn't choose the inlayed 'pomegranate' on the headstock but the guitar is so good I don't mind it.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 17:10:59
 
Morante

 

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to RobF

For 150,000 euro????? At least 3 or 4 top flamenco guitars, just from this foro.

When I wanted a Martin I played 4 in Madrid, all at 4000 euros and rejected all for defects of constuction and poor sound.

Maybe you have to be in USA to buy a good one
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 11 2023 23:28:31
 
RobF

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

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ORIGINAL: Morante

For 150,000 euro????? At least 3 or 4 top flamenco guitars, just from this foro.

When I wanted a Martin I played 4 in Madrid, all at 4000 euros and rejected all for defects of constuction and poor sound.

Maybe you have to be in USA to buy a good one



Yeah, it seems bazoinkers, for sure.

This is kind of cynical, but I think they’re trying to take advantage of the luxury goods boom that came out of the the perfect storm created by the crypto bubble (and the need for people to convert crypto gains into tradable goods), the pandemic with its stimulus funding (which further enriched some people who frankly didn’t need any of it), and the idle time people had to basically indulge in a social media fantasy world. The prices of collectable modern wristwatches went through the roof, I mean watches were trading on the grey market for up to ten times their pre-pandemic levels. New watches became unobtainable and if one was fortunate enough to buy a high-end watch at retail they could flip it the next day for double the amount or more. The market has corrected a lot recently but watches like Rolex and the like still trade for well above retail.

Add to that a similar syndrome acting upon ‘collectable’ guitars (as estebanana suggested in an earlier post) and it’s pretty obvious that they are trying to cash in on both the wristwatch boom (the guitar comes with a custom made watch) as well as the collectable guitar boom.

Too bad the thing is ugly, and the price doesn’t help matters. Seems crazy expensive, to me.

I still have a handful of Martins. They’re pretty great guitars, but I don’t subscribe to the grail guitar club, to me good guitars are good guitars and people can do with that what they want. Some people have to mythologize everything and go on about how this or that is sitting at some celestial level, then you play it and the house of cards comes crashing down. I remember this guy waxing eloquent about the outstanding and unobtainable attributes of a guitar from a certain maker that he wanted $25,000 for, he actually described hearing it as being akin to the heavens opening and the sound of angels issuing forth. I sat in a hotel room in Madrid and played one from the same maker, in better condition, and can tell you it was OK. But every other guitar in the room was just as good.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 12 2023 0:26:41
 
Ricardo

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

At least they admit they had difficulties selling that junk.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 12 2023 16:36:47
 
JasonM

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

Beautiful watch!


He meant to say, “uh yeah I don’t want to tell you how long this inlay took” “someone had to do graveyard shift to baby sit the CNC to change a broken bit. Often times the Brazilian Rosewood would splinter and we’d have to start over. Bob had quite a pile of discarded Brazilian to burn in his fireplace!!!”
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2023 14:46:46
 
Morante

 

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to JasonM

This price is equivalant to 30 top class flamenco guitars at 5,000 each. It is an insult to the luthiers of the world.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 13 2023 16:12:16
 
RobF

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RE: Bad taste (in reply to Morante

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ORIGINAL: Morante

This price is equivalant to 30 top class flamenco guitars at 5,000 each. It is an insult to the luthiers of the world.


It’s just the way of the world we live in these days. It’s no different than the YouTube comparison vids saying here’s your chance to hear the difference between a $1000 guitar, a $20,000 guitar and a $200,000 guitar. Those vids are every bit as tacky, self-serving, and offensive, IMO.
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