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rafapak

 

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how to count sixteenth notes in span... 

people who speak english count this like : one ,e, and, a, two,e, and, a ...etc

what about spanish speaking people ?
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Richard Jernigan

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

In Spanish a whole note is a redonda. Successive subdivisions are blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea....

Thus sixteenth notes are semicorcheas. They are counted much as in English, eight semicorcheas in 4/4 time: un-e-y-a, dos-e-y-a.

RNJ
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silddx

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Richard, how is the 'y' pronounced please?
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orsonw

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

More often flamencos vocalise in way similar to konnakol: 'taka taka'
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silddx

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to orsonw

Yeah that's what I've usually seen and heard.
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Stu

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to silddx

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Richard, how is the 'y' pronounced please?


Eee

And the e is pronounced ey/eh

But maybe you're just setting up some funnies with your question so sorry if I took it seriously.

Yeah I've not heard Spanish flamenco folk counting 16th like you ask rafa. Turns into taka taka like Orson said
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silddx

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to Stu

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Eee

And the e is pronounced ey/eh

But maybe you're just setting up some funnies with your question so sorry if I took it seriously.

Yeah I've not heard Spanish flamenco folk counting 16th like you ask rafa. Turns into taka taka like Orson said


No I was being serious Stu, I'd not heard it was done that way before, always that taka taka method.

Thanks for the info mate.
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Stu

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to silddx

I've not really heard that way either tbh.

But I know y is the word for AND, and that's how you'd pronounce it normally. So.....
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Goldwinghai

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

The Spanish men's soccer/futbol team employed the sixteenth notes rhythm TIKITAKA when they played in the world cup 2, 3 cycles ago. Sorry I have to put this in.
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rafapak

 

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

quote:

In Spanish a whole note is a redonda. Successive subdivisions are blanca, negra, corchea, semicorchea....

Thus sixteenth notes are semicorcheas. They are counted much as in English, eight semicorcheas in 4/4 time: un-e-y-a, dos-e-y-a.

RNJ




at 7th minute and 11th second he starts counting . is he counting eight notes or sixteenth notes ?

how one would count the same rhythm if it was supposed to be done in english language ?
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Stu

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

8th notes.

Un y dos y tres etc

One and two and three etc

1+2+3 etc
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rafapak

 

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to Stu

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8th notes.

Un y dos y tres etc

One and two and three etc

1+2+3 etc


thanks. Now i realized kai narezo talks about the same thing in this video

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to silddx

While I was a classically trained trumpet playing kid, the answer I gave was what I picked up from my Spanish speaking classical friends. I'm not surprised that flamencos say something different.

My trumpeting friends also imitated double-tonguing: "tiki-taka," and triple-tonguing: "tikiti-takata".

RNJ
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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

Triplet (Pai or Pmp) ta-ka-ta
Pai Pai P takata takata ta

P pulgar up
p pulgar down

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Ricardo

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to rafapak

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ORIGINAL: rafapak

people who speak english count this like : one ,e, and, a, two,e, and, a ...etc

what about spanish speaking people ?


Flamencos count 16ths or 4 per beat like this:



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devilhand

 

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RE: how to count sixteenth notes in ... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:


Flamencos count 16ths or 4 per beat like this:

Yes. Exactly what I wrote above. I believe gitanos count subdivisions like this:
Four 16th notes ta-ka-ta-ka
16th note triplet ta-ka-ta

@rafapak
You can count triplets ra-fa-pak ra-fa-pak if you want to. Just kidding because the last k gets in the way.

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