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Morante

 

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Falla y el Concurso de Granada 

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Falla y el Concurso de Granada (in reply to Morante

Thanks Morante. Many times and places I have read of the Concurso, but never before so much about the many “errors of planning and execution.”

Despite its flaws the Concurso gave flamenco an entre’ into Spanish and European elite culture.

RNJ
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Ricardo

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RE: Falla y el Concurso de Granada (in reply to Richard Jernigan

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ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

Thanks Morante. Many times and places I have read of the Concurso, but never before so much about the many “errors of planning and execution.”

Despite its flaws the Concurso gave flamenco an entre’ into Spanish and European elite culture.

RNJ


Well the irony there is that the people putting it on thought it was of low class popularity, when actually it was already (and as far as it looks, always was) “elite”. Not to imply of the “rich” people, but certainly of the successful tribes of working classes and the bullfighters, which ever “class” you consider them. If you believe the individuals in Borrow’s books called “los del Aficion” where part of the early flamenco group of artists and aficionados (I certainly do at least), than even more than “elite”, it was almost as if part of some secret society. Estebañez Calderon (Solitario) also leaves this impression IMO.

There seems to be a general “romantic” notion that flamenco was developed (created?) by the lowest class wandering homeless vagabond gypsies who were oppressed by secular laws against their chicken thieving and such, when it appears the opposite case is true. So Falla and these “intellectuals” had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find what they wanted to believe was “pure” singers around before this romantic art form disappears. The opposite was the case, and the well off professionals that did not participate simply were interested in developing some fandangos (as if this was some horrible sin or blasphemy), and did not participate (unless judges such as Chacon) because they were working/performing elsewhere. I admit this guy Tenazas was an amazing tenor technically (just check Paquirri 4 for cryin out loud), not sure how you are born to sing like that….and of course Caracol was just a kid (his advocates, according to Segovia, got Tenazas drunk, which is the party referred to in the article, in hopes he would screw up the letras, which he did). By the way Segovia says Tenazas only had one lung as he had been stabbed in the chest.

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Morante

 

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Me gustaría participar en este concurso. ¿Cuál es la cualificación mínima necesaria? ¡Gracias!


No hace falta ser cantaor professional. Solo tiene pagar 1000 euros para registrarse. El Concurso será en Granada, y tendrá un tocaor de balde. Tendrá el suerte de conocer a los maestros De Falla y Lorca. Buena suerte.
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