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Ricardo

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Flamenco History Primary sources links. 

This post by Kitarist is buried somewhere and I keep looking for those links. So I was thinking to store them in this topic and if anybody comes across open source links to flamencology evidence and papers they can drop here for easy search.

Access to Primary Sources:

• “Libro de la Gitanería de Triana 1740-1750” (excerpt):
https://archive.org/details/LA_GITANERIA_DE_TRIANA-FRAGMENTO/page/n5/mode/2up

• “Cartas Marruecas “:
https://archive.org/details/cartasmarruecas00cada_0/page/n5/mode/2up

• “La Discordia”, scenic tonadilla:
http://www.memoriademadrid.es/buscador.php?accion=VerFicha&id=340080

• “Coleccion de las mejores coplas de Seguidillas, Tiranas, y Polos “:
Vol.1 : https://archive.org/details/colecciondelasme01donp
Vol.2 : https://books.google.es/books?id=MRpEAAAAcAAJ

• “Gatherings from Spain”:
https://archive.org/details/gatheringsfromsp1846ford/page/318/mode/2up

• “A Summer in Andalucia”:
Vol.1 : https://books.google.ca/books?id=YmlCAAAAIAAJ
Vol.2 : https://books.google.ca/books?id=wGlCAAAAIAAJ

• “The Zincali”:
Vol.1 : https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.81521
Vol.2 : https://archive.org/details/zincali00unkngoog/page/n6/mode/2up

• “Escenas Andaluzas”:
https://archive.org/details/escenasandaluzas00estb/page/240/mode/2up

• “Coleccion de Cantes Flamencos” (re-typed open source):
https://archive.org/details/coleccion-de-cantes-flamencos-demofilo/mode/2up

Here is the score for the first known Fandango copla by Felix Maximo Lopez (1742-1821), found on Page 2:
http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000051847&page=1

Eduardo Ocón score (1874) linked by Kitarist below

Guillermo Castro Buendia dissertation covering flamenco at the time of Silverio Franconetti (based on his book). Warning!!! 3,000 page document. Click on the link below, then edit the “o” in the word “Formacion” to “Formación” to make the link active:

https://digitum.um.es/digitum/bitstream/10201/38638/1/Formacion%20Musical%20del%20Cante%20Flamenco%20-%20En%20torno%20a%20la%20Figura%20de%20Silverio%20Franconetti%20_1830-1889.pdf

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kitarist

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RE: Flamenco History Primary sources... (in reply to Ricardo

The original is here: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=335259&p=&mpage=9&s=#336208

Cross-referencing it so there is a link to the original long thread for context and if one wants to delve into that for more details. I will be adding something to that thread shortly.

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kitarist

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RE: Flamenco History Primary sources... (in reply to Ricardo

Also

• "Two years in Spain and Portugal 1838-1840" (1841, by Charles Dembowski)
https://archive.org/details/deuxansenespagn00dembgoog/page/n6/mode/2up

• "Cantos españoles : coleccion de aires nacionales y populares" (1874, Eduardo Ocón)
http://www.bibliotecavirtualdeandalucia.es/catalogo/es/catalogo_imagenes/grupo.do?path=162199

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 24 2022 20:15:07
 
Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco History Primary sources... (in reply to Ricardo

Here is the original Glinka/Muricano source:

https://expositions.nlr.ru/ex_manus/balakirev_glinka/occup.php

Also the "Almost Fandango copla" of Pablo Minguet y Irol, 1754, page 47:
https://collections.library.yale.edu/catalog/30907437

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 3 2022 17:52:09
 
kitarist

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RE: Flamenco History Primary sources... (in reply to Ricardo

Glinka's travel notes re: Spain are in volume 2 of the inaugural year (1870) of a historical monthly called "Русская старина"- something like "Russian historical documents" loosely translated based on its contents.

Link to source: https://www.google.ca/books/edition/_/SjkFAAAAYAAJ

The part of the notes regarding Spain (Glinka's "Period XII") is on pdf-file pages 439-451 (magazine pages 425-437).

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Steelhead

 

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RE: Flamenco History Primary sources... (in reply to Ricardo

Well you guys are doing good historical work. Ricardo, looking at the Minguet y Irol MS, I have to agree that there seems to be no reason to assume, as does Castro, that there is a missing page; in other words, whatever it is, it's not a good example of an 18th-c textbook fandango copla.

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