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gerundino63

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Pain thight bone 

Hi all,

Nearly 20 years on the foro, and playing flamenco for nearly 40 years, where is the time.
Still practicing, still lousy english, still a mediocre player, and still enjoying coming here!

I am 58 now, and playing most of the time the PDL posture. Since this winter my thight bone is hurting a bit. Only if I stop playing and start walking. It passes soon after a few steps.About 10 cm, 3,94 inch under the beginning of the bone at the back/side

Ever experienced that?

Looking for a footstool……

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Escribano

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RE: Pain thight bone (in reply to gerundino63

Might be a sciatic nerve compression. Change your posture a little. Best to get it checked out by a doctor though.

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kitarist

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RE: Pain thight bone (in reply to gerundino63

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and playing most of the time the PDL posture. Since this winter my thight bone is hurting a bit. Only if I stop playing and start walking. It passes soon after a few steps.About 10 cm, 3,94 inch under the beginning of the bone at the back/side

Ever experienced that?


I had something similar a few years ago when I spent too much time practising guitar sitting at the edge of a chair without any padding, with right leg on a leg stool. It got the sciatic nerve irritated, felt as pain at that specific point at the back around the contact point, but deep. Once that got irritated, I had to be patient - even though I changed my sitting and added padding, it took months for the pain to stop appearing as soon as I sit in a similar position, even with padding. A sciatic nerve irritation goes away very slowly; but it does go away (and maybe goes away quicker if you identify the problem earlier).

But what you have sounds different in that you say you only get the pain after you get up and for a few steps - maybe you caught it early. I'd get it within a minute of sitting down and it will linger for many minutes after I got up. In retrospect, what I had been doing was really stupid, of course - basically sitting on a hard edge of wood digging into my leg for hours on end.

Here's a picture of a man's back side with semi-transparent muscles to enable visualization of all systems, the yellow giant thing is the sciatic nerve; see how it comes from deep to shallower toward the skin as it comes in between the gluteus maximus and the long head of the biceps femoris at the back of the thigh; that's where it seems most vulnerable to compression and where I got mine irritated.

BTW, I would have thought that playing in the Paco position would be a relief in that it hides the sciatic nerve a bit (compared to playing with the right leg on a stool as I did) and moves the contact point more at the gluteus. So again what you have sounds a bit different and maybe you need it professionally diagnosed as Simon suggests. I mean, it is possible you still have sciatic nerve irritation as Paco's position may have its own issues from rotation and compression somehow causing it.



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gerundino63

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RE: Pain thight bone (in reply to gerundino63

Thanks Simon and Konstantin,

I think this is the nerve that is irritated.
I will play in different positions. And when it goes worst or take a long time I will see a doctor.
@ Konstantin, nice picture of the legg. Very informarive

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gerundino63

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RE: Pain thight bone/muscle (in reply to gerundino63

Today I went to the doctor. She told me it was the muscle, and probably the tendon.
It will take some time to heal.

I play now with a footstool and the old fashioned position as much as possible.
With running for 10 km or so, or walking I feel nothing.
Sitting on a hard chair is also a bit painfully sometimes.

Well, glad it is not the nerve or a kind of hernia or so.

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devilhand

 

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RE: Pain thight bone/muscle (in reply to gerundino63

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Sitting on a hard chair is also a bit painfully sometimes.

Ouch! Playing/praciticing on a soft (office) stool is the way to go.

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kitarist

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RE: Pain thight bone/muscle (in reply to gerundino63

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Today I went to the doctor. She told me it was the muscle, and probably the tendon.


That's good news (compared to a sciatic nerve issue); though you realize you are making us Drs. Escribano and Kitarist look bad

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kitarist

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RE: Pain thight bone/muscle (in reply to kitarist

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ORIGINAL: kitarist

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Today I went to the doctor. She told me it was the muscle, and probably the tendon.


That's good news (compared to a sciatic nerve issue); though you realize you are making us Drs. Escribano and Kitarist look bad


In other news, my picking-arm brachioradialis muscle has been sore the last couple of days. It normally assists with flexing the elbow. Looks like I might have overused it without noticing, needlessly keeping it under (too much) tension while picado-ing across multiple string instead of relying more on the deltoids to move the upper arm up and let the forearm follow more passively.

Wondering if anyone else had this and how long it took to recover. And, obviously, I have to pay special attention to it while practising to teach it to stay relaxed when not needed.



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