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Grandes cantaores 

Many aficionados think that Chacon is the best singer in the history of flamenco. Others consider that Torres is the best.

But both Chacon and Torres considered Tomás to be the best. A ver...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2020 15:51:29


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RE: Grandes cantaores (in reply to Morante

Tomás por soleares. The soleá de Frijones is an obra de arte.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2020 16:05:53

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RE: Grandes cantaores (in reply to Morante

Manuel Torre= the best expression or emotion.

Antonio Chacon= the best musicality and phrasing of the melodic lines.

Tomas Pavon = the best vocal tone quality or sound.

Nadal, Djokavic, Federer....three kings.

For comparison the first and third (2:25) of Chacon here correspond to Pavon 1st and second style:

And Chacon’s second letra (1:42) is damn impressive for its range, similar to Pavon frijones.


CD's and transcriptions available here:
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RE: Grandes cantaores (in reply to Morante

So the text of Tomas Pavon song is:

a clavito y canelita
me hueles tu a mi
la que no huele a clavo y canela
no sabe distinguir

but what does it mean? (google translate gives not realy a satisfying answer..)

And also the second song:

tengo el gusto tan colmado cuando te tengo a mi verta, que si me dieran la muerte creo que no la sintiera

Nunca de mi falte que te tengo tan presente como la prima vez

Acuerdate cuando entonces bajabas descalza a abrirme y ahora no me conoces.

have the pleasure so full when I have you by my side,
that if they gave me death I think I would not feel it
Never miss me that I have you as present as the first time
remember when you came down barefoot to open up and now you don't know me

Actually pretty nice to have text next to it and be able to translate.. opens up a new door. ;-)
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RE: Grandes cantaores (in reply to Morante

Nice comparison. Winner for me is Pavón, such a great effortless tone, I’m always a fan of his. Chacon has a unique voice, they are all good.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 7 2020 16:21:14
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