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RE: Lenny Breau
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BarkellWH
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RE: Lenny Breau (in reply to Leñador)
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As well, this particular art is a culture and people do own cultures. Careful, Lenny. We who love, play, and study flamenco on the Foro are likely targets for the ludicrous so-called "students" on university campuses today who charge anyone who displays atrributes of "non-Western" cultures with "Cultural Appropriation." We non-Spaniards performing flamenco, even as amateurs, and certainly as professionals, would be considered guilty of cultural appropriation by these little snowflakes searching for "safe spaces" and demanding "trigger warnings" before hearing about the exchanges that have been occurring between various cultures since cultures have interacted. Bill
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Date May 22 2018 22:47:12
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Ricardo
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RE: Lenny Breau (in reply to SombraDuende)
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ORIGINAL: SombraDuende I've spent time in Sevilla. One guy I became friends with there told me that he hates how closed minded some people get when talking about flamenco. He told me music, including flamenco, is art and nobody owns art. Well, the problem is is that when you have a very deep rooted family based closed oral tradition art form like flamenco is, people become very protective of it. Most people, even in silly pop rock fandom, are very concerned about “commercialization”, whatever it might mean. I can only say from my own perspective, some of the flamenco singers I first got into I no longer consider so important as I did at first...and it is simply because I have gone down much deeper into the rabbit hole of cante. I don’t think it fair to only describe people with strong opinions about art as “close minded”....of course there are those as well. I try to avoid talking negatively about some artists I don’t care for as I know some folks are truly moved by it, even if I know it is tosh relative to something else. All I like to do is promote stuff I think is good. Now about your guitar player. Yes he is great player, the Sabicas transcription he plays is very accurate and he obviously loves the aesthetic of the flamenco guitar sound...however when he starts swinging and leaves the Taranta behind it leaves me like “what was the point?”....you see a lot of folks during that era look at flamenco as some flashy trick guitar playing that sounds spanishy....that sentiment has not really changed much generally speaking. Now if he had played a swing version of the Taranta then I would have been struck by the innovation there. Mclaughlin therefore, does a better job IMO by fusing what he knows more with proper flamenco concepts. (When he plays Zyryab or chiquito for example, he puts some Coltrane style swing in there at times). Of course he is a type of guy to actually jump down some rabbit holes himself (see Shakti, and of course he collaborated with Paco). He is no better a jazz player as far as I can tell than Lenny, however it’s the approach to the idea....”here is some flamingo for ya, just kidding”, vs “now I will play buleria por solea with Paco freakin de Lucia”....you wanted to talk about it and that is how I see it.
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Date May 23 2018 15:47:22
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