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Filip

 

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Luzia [Book] 

Hi all,

I just run on this accidentally by browsing some stuff on Amazon, looks like the official book with partituras from Luzia is out (link). Anyone got it already, any opinions?

Cheers
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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

I haven’t got it yet, but I notice the transcriber is David Leiva.

I have his Sabicas & Escudero books; they’re a very thorough job indeed.
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Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

Thanks Paul.
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Ricardo

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

quote:

ORIGINAL: Filip

Hi all,

I just run on this accidentally by browsing some stuff on Amazon, looks like the official book with partituras from Luzia is out (link). Anyone got it already, any opinions?

Cheers


I just got this one....looks very good and like the Zyryab book it is very thorough but things like fingerings might be off on occasion like almost every transcription. He changed the font size of the scores to a little bit smaller look which saves some paper it seems...but still it’s got A LOT of notes. I have always been curious about the music theory going on with the Solea and Rondeña from this album and going through the score reveals a lot of good stuff I would like to share my thoughts on the next time the music theory arguments come up as we have some concrete examples to explore.

Forgot to add that Leiva has gone back and fixed some of the damage that was done with the hasty release of Volume 1 of the colllection....that being he did a complete score of El Duende Flamenco de Paco de Lucia, that just came out already. The price of these books (36 euros on Amazon) is super cheap compared to how much music is in them. I hope he also puts out a complete Fabulosa with the missing tracks and they just recycle Volume 1.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 19 2018 19:15:38
 
JasonM

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Ricardo

I didn't know about this book. It's hard to believe this album is 20 years old already.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 20 2018 1:41:50
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

Thanks a lot Ricardo!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 22 2018 13:52:13
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

Just saw this https://www.storemusic-live.es/FichaArticulo~x~Grandes-exitos-Vol-1-Libro-Paco-de-Lucia~IDArticulo~1764.html

Looks like they are going to release a series of new books with compilations.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 15 2018 22:23:24
 
Ricardo

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

quote:

ORIGINAL: Filip

Just saw this https://www.storemusic-live.es/FichaArticulo~x~Grandes-exitos-Vol-1-Libro-Paco-de-Lucia~IDArticulo~1764.html

Looks like they are going to release a series of new books with compilations.

Time to cash in before completing the collection I guess? I’m probably one of few that actually purchases this stuff

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 16 2018 10:27:00
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Ricardo

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I’m probably one of few that actually purchases this stuff

I have a few of these as well (Siroco, Zyryab and Luzia). I don't play at all much of the stuff from these albums, maybe just a few falsetas here and there, but it is a treat to be able to take them out when I really want to play something. I have to admit though that sometimes it seems to me that some falsetas are more difficult than they really are or should be because some notes are quite hard to pay and connect together, I sometimes really think that there's no way it should be played the way it is written. Could be that I'm just frustrated at how hard some falsetas are. I dunno :)

Also, I think notices some errors in falsetas that I tried to play (one Rio de la Miel and one El Chorruelo), but it's reasonable to expect errors of course.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2019 14:31:36
 
Ricardo

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

quote:

ORIGINAL: Filip

quote:

I’m probably one of few that actually purchases this stuff

I have a few of these as well (Siroco, Zyryab and Luzia). I don't play at all much of the stuff from these albums, maybe just a few falsetas here and there, but it is a treat to be able to take them out when I really want to play something. I have to admit though that sometimes it seems to me that some falsetas are more difficult than they really are or should be because some notes are quite hard to pay and connect together, I sometimes really think that there's no way it should be played the way it is written. Could be that I'm just frustrated at how hard some falsetas are. I dunno :)

Also, I think notices some errors in falsetas that I tried to play (one Rio de la Miel and one El Chorruelo), but it's reasonable to expect errors of course.


It’s important to use scores in conjunction with available live footage. Yes in the end there is lots to fix

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2019 21:45:25
 
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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
Time to cash in before completing the collection I guess? I’m probably one of few that actually purchases this stuff


I have six of these, up to Siroco.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2019 22:51:25
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Ricardo

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It’s important to use scores in conjunction with available live footage. Yes in the end there is lots to fix

Yes, exactly. I usually start with lowering down the speed to 50% or even 35% to catch if what I hear is what is written in the notes. Sometimes there are errors there too I think, so when I get that correct I usually use book's scores with live videos and other scores if I have them. Lots of work especially because I am quite slow at all this, but it pays off :)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2019 8:07:58
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to kitarist

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I have six of these, up to Siroco

Nice :)

When it comes to these new books, I would more like to see scores of live performances than this best of compilation though.
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Ricardo

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

As far as Luzia goes, I remember the material appeared in his live shows several months prior to the album release ... it was a shock to the system to hear all the unfamiliar replacements for Rondeña, Alegrias, and bulerias! I don’t find much or any material from that tour on youtube, but this concert comes closest to the Luzia material. By the time of cositas buenas (2004) all the forms changed and mixed with older and new material.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2019 11:54:09
 
Filip

 

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Filip

Never knew that he played that much of Luzia material live before the album was released, I can only imagine how it felt being at some of those concerts.

That Jazz a Vienne concert is quite a treasure, I remember at first I saw some parts on youtube in very bad quality and when the video that you linked appeared I was happy like a little kid. It's a pity that there's no more material from that period, apart from Vienne concert I know only of the concert in Lugano in 2001.
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JasonM

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RE: Luzia [Book] (in reply to Ricardo

Wow that is a great concert / video! Seeing him play that alegrias from Luzia is incredible!
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