Foro Flamenco
Posts Since Last Visit | Advanced Search | Home | Register | Login

Today's Posts | Inbox | Profile | Our Rules | Contact Admin | Log Out



Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvir, Philip John Lee and Craig Eros who went ahead of us too soon.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.





Tomatito: me gusta el cante más que la guitarra   You are logged in as Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Login
Message<< Newer Topic  Older Topic >>
 
Morante

 

Posts: 1904
Joined: Nov. 21 2010
 

Tomatito: me gusta el cante más que... 

http://www.diariodecadiz.es/entrevistas/gusta-cante-guitarra-melodia-natural_0_1155484477.html
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 19 2017 18:30:49
 
jshelton5040

Posts: 1500
Joined: Jan. 17 2005
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I like the way he plays guitar but wish he would get a haircut. I agree wholeheartedly on favoring cante over toque.

_____________________________

John Shelton - www.sheltonfarrettaguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 19 2017 23:17:44
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I think any pro level player would agree with that........

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 19 2017 23:34:22

ToddK

 

Posts: 2960
Joined: Dec. 6 2004
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I prefer the guitar. I like the guitar. I play the guitar.

The guitar is cool. I enjoy it. I like singing too.

But not as much as the guitar.

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 4:42:46
 
gerundino63

 

Posts: 1680
Joined: Jul. 11 2003
 

[Deleted] 

Post has been moved to the Recycle Bin at Jul. 20 2017 7:50:45
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 7:00:32
 
mrstwinkle

 

Posts: 497
Joined: May 14 2017
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I prefer the guitar, but I've rarely warmed that much to guitar-centric albums. The singing balances it out and if nothing else adds a natural break between falsettas.

Having said that, I Saw Tomatito in Cologne 6 months ago - I forget who the singer he had with him was, but he had IMO a weak voice and didn't particularly ring my bell.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 8:34:50
 
mark indigo

 

Posts: 3342
Joined: Dec. 5 2007
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I prefer aubergines to peppers, but that doesn't mean I don't like peppers, on the contrary, I actually like both aubergines and peppers, but I do prefer aubergines...

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 18:36:14
 
Piwin

Posts: 3394
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

As long as we all agree that baile comes last

@mark indigo
Have you ever tried Granada-style fried-aubergine with honey? That and a cold beer on a summer afternoon looking over to the Alhambra. That's the life.
I think that recipe is also a cross-over from North-African culture. So I hear, I've only ever had that recipe in Spain though.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 18:46:23
 
Ricardo

Posts: 13331
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

Nothing is more offensive than bad cante. I would also prefer fantastic guitar to mediocre cante. Ideally both should be high quality. Ragging on good modern guitar solo has gotten really tiresome over the years. For sure OLD cante was better than it has become.

_____________________________

CD's and transcriptions available here:
www.ricardomarlow.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 19:08:09
 
mark indigo

 

Posts: 3342
Joined: Dec. 5 2007
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Piwin

quote:

Have you ever tried Granada-style fried-aubergine with honey?
I have, I think I had some in Ronda. I really like aubergines all sorts of ways, stewed in olive oil, moussaka, baba ganoush, pisto manchego, brinjal bhaji, ratatouille

Note: several of these dishes also include peppers, I really like peppers too

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 20:02:33
 
jshelton5040

Posts: 1500
Joined: Jan. 17 2005
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

"good modern guitar"

I've always thought that was a non sequitur

_____________________________

John Shelton - www.sheltonfarrettaguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 21:39:00
 
mrstwinkle

 

Posts: 497
Joined: May 14 2017
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to mark indigo

Grilled aubergine made in Crete with halloumi is personal favourite. Much as I like Spanish food, I have to vote Greek on this. With a few peppers of course.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 22:53:27
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

I prefer eggplant to aubergine.

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 20 2017 23:15:23
 
mark indigo

 

Posts: 3342
Joined: Dec. 5 2007
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Leñador

quote:

I prefer eggplant to aubergine.

but do you prefer berenjena to brinjal though?

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 21 2017 12:22:06
 
Piwin

Posts: 3394
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to mark indigo

Peppers win when it comes to flamenco names though. Pimientito works great. But Berenjenito?

Maybe in other styles of music? DJ O-berGeen? Lil' eggplant?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 21 2017 12:41:58
 
tele

Posts: 1462
Joined: Aug. 17 2012
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

Does anyone else think half of the beauty of flamenco singing is in the words? I find it hard to understand though, just when I thought learning to speak with the fast talking Andalucians was enough. I don't think beauty of cante is in the musicality of it.

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 10:58:03
 
mrstwinkle

 

Posts: 497
Joined: May 14 2017
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to tele

I speak pidgen-Spanish so struggle. I remember doing a bit of a double take when I first watched Saura's Flamenco DVD with subtitles - innuendo overload.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 13:38:20
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

quote:

but do you prefer berenjena to brinjal though?

Realizing now I've never heard that word! There's really no eggplant in Mexican cooking.....
quote:

Does anyone else think half of the beauty of flamenco singing is in the words?

I'm actually 180 from this, generally the actual letras are lost on me. I really just love the way it sounds, I don't care that they're singing about forgotten parsley from the market.

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 13:40:01
 
jshelton5040

Posts: 1500
Joined: Jan. 17 2005
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Leñador

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leñador

I'm actually 180 from this, generally the actual letras are lost on me. I really just love the way it sounds, I don't care that they're singing about forgotten parsley from the market.

Same for me. It's very much like grand opera, understanding the libretto can ruin the effect.

_____________________________

John Shelton - www.sheltonfarrettaguitars.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 14:19:07
 
Morante

 

Posts: 1904
Joined: Nov. 21 2010
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to jshelton5040

quote:

It's very much like grand opera, understanding the libretto can ruin the effect.


Wellll. In Fandangos it is fairly important, as in a joke; the last line says everything.

But when Mijitas de Jerez sings a letra about being dead and buried and the worms are eating his entrails, you cannot deny that it adds a certain flavour to la soleá
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 15:15:09
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

There are definitely letras that I love, think are very cool and identify with but good lyrics are not a requirement for me by long shot. How it's sung is a lot more important to me.

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 18:59:41
 
henrym3483

Posts: 1554
Joined: Nov. 13 2005
From: Limerick,Ireland

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Leñador

nice looking forward to this album when out

good cante a capella is awesome...
some of the stuff i heard arcangel sing in jerez without accompaniment was awesome.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 22 2017 19:06:57
 
Ricardo

Posts: 13331
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Nothing is more offensive than bad cante. I would also prefer fantastic guitar to mediocre cante. Ideally both should be high quality. Ragging on good modern guitar solo has gotten really tiresome over the years. For sure OLD cante was better than it has become.


For example


My Spaniard Facebook friends were having a field day about the toque and cante here at 38:00. Vallejo and Manolo de huelva must be spinnin in their graves.

_____________________________

CD's and transcriptions available here:
www.ricardomarlow.com
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2017 22:26:13
 
Mark2

Posts: 1696
Joined: Jul. 12 2004
From: San Francisco

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Ricardo

Dude,
Don't be such a hater! Didn't you hear all the cante aficionados going crazy at 40:00? The resolution...was so utterly profound. Really! All this elitist attitude...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2017 22:41:55
 
Piwin

Posts: 3394
Joined: Feb. 9 2016
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Mark2

The video description on YouTube says:
"Rodaje exclusivo por parte de "El Leñador", del concierto COMPLETO de 46 minutos ofrecido por la cantaora catalana "Rosalía"; y uno de nuestros grandes referente de toda la vida para "Leñador Films" TV como es el MAESTRO: "Raül Férnandez - Refree""

Leñador, explain yourself!!! You claim to live in LA and be a cante afficionado and now we find out you own a film company promoting bad cante in Barcelona!! What gives man?!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2017 22:54:38
 
Erik van Goch

 

Posts: 1787
Joined: Jul. 17 2012
From: Netherlands

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo


My Spaniard Facebook friends were having a field day about the toque and cante here at 38:00. Vallejo and Manolo de huelva must be spinnin in their graves.


Halfway watching it "on foro" the video suddenly stopped playing and for a moment i thought either youtube or the foro threw in the towel. But the savior turned out to be Piwin posting above post at that very moment :-).

_____________________________

The smaller the object of your focus the bigger the result.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2017 23:07:01
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

quote:

Leñador, explain yourself!!! You claim to live in LA and be a cante afficionado and now we find out you own a film company promoting bad cante in Barcelona!! What gives man?!

Hahahahaha, oh man, I'm busted. Figured that'd be too bad for anyone I know to watch! Lol

Didn't watch the rest but the guitar playing at 38:00 was making me crazy too.....

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2017 23:28:31
 
mark indigo

 

Posts: 3342
Joined: Dec. 5 2007
 

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

My Spaniard Facebook friends were having a field day about the toque and cante here at 38:00. Vallejo and Manolo de huelva must be spinnin in their graves.


what is it supposed to be? is it supposed to be flamenco? what language is she singing in?

_____________________________

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 25 2017 13:06:44
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Tomatito: me gusta el cante más... (in reply to Morante

Skimmed through, I think the guitarist completely out bads her bad cante. It's just unlistenable, is it some sort of Catalan music or something???

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 25 2017 17:49:35
Page:   [1]
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Jump to:

New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET

0.0625 secs.