RE: regions in Spain where flamenco culture is still popular

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DavRom

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From: De camino a Sevilla

RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Escribano)

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Got stopped by them a couple of times at night in the hills between Granada and the coast. The drug runners use those rat runs apparently.

that's why i say smoke it b4 you leave home

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Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to DavRom)

I think it was three years ago when I was staying at a hotel in Triana because the ones on the right bank of the river where full at the beginning of tourist season...making small talk with a cab driver on the way downtown:

"¿Donde se encuentra flamenco puro, aquí en Triana? Prefiero cante...¨

The cab driver named a place and enthused at length.

¨Dicen que por lo común no se encuentra nada mas que sevillanas...¨

¨¡Sí, sí Señor, sevillanas toda la noche!¨

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 5 2015 18:56:18

El Kiko

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

but dont knock sevillanas Richard..

I used to go to la taberna de la verdad in Cordoba ..sevillanas all the time ..and the best place to get a cordobesa ..

(and the only reason i learned to dance it )

everything has its uses....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 5 2015 19:27:33

Nito

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to DavRom)

Hi,

I attach a link with the most popular "tablaos" in Madrid with regular performances.

Tablaos Madrid

If you are looking for "sevillanas" go to Sevilla witouht dobut. But "Sevillanas" is not flamenco, is Spanish folk.

I insist, Madrid and Cadiz is the center of flamenco.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 6 2015 6:30:17

BarkellWH

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From: Washington, DC

RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Nito)

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I attach a link with the most popular "tablaos" in Madrid with regular performances.

I wonder who determined the venues mentioned in the link were "Los mejores 8 tablaos flamencos de Madrid"? It reads like those ads in airline in-flight magazines. You know the ones: "The top ten steak houses in America." "The top ten plastic surgeons in America." etc.

For flamenco, I think one is better sticking to Cadiz, Jerez de la Frontera, and others in Andalucia. Save Madrid for the Prado.

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 6 2015 7:11:13

Nito

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to DavRom)

Bill,

Reading your comment, I could be agree with you, but from my point of view there is a mistake on the phrase. Is not the "8 best places...", it's "the ONLY 8 places..." where you can enjoy flamenco ambient. Concert, dinner, etc...

In the other hand, if you look my previous comments, you can see that I spoke about Cadiz and Jerez de la frontera. But Jerez can't offer the variety of concerts than Madrid offers regularly.

Any artist knows that Madrid is Madrid.

Paco de Lucia moved to madrid at eleven age.

Cepero lived in Madrid during 30 years. Now lives on Jerez de la Frontera.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 6 2015 16:22:32

Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to El Kiko)

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ORIGINAL: El Kiko

but dont knock sevillanas Richard..

Not knocking sevillanas--one of the first guitar pieces I learned to play was sevillanas-- just agreeing that few Spaniards are into flamenco puro.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 6 2015 20:38:58

BarkellWH

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Nito)

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Is not the "8 best places...", it's "the ONLY 8 places..."

Nito,

Are we reading different links? The link in your comment led me to the listing of the eight venues for flamenco, and it is clearly entitled, "Los mejores 8 tablaos flamencos de Madrid." Unless the Real Academia Espanola has upended the Spanish language, I am sure "mejor" still means "best." No?

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 6 2015 22:10:12

Nito

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to DavRom)

Bill,

I agree with you, but I can ensure there are no more places than appear in the link.

For that reason, I said that the title should be the only 8 places instead the 8 best places.

Anyway, my intention was only recommend some places to people who are looking for flamenco places.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 6:15:23

Morante

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Nito)

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I insist, Madrid and Cadiz is the center of flamenco.

Seems like you have not been to Cádiz from some time. La cuña de flamenco sí, ahora un desierto

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 15:10:17

El Kiko

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Morante)

really ??/... its that bad ... i had quite a few flamenco friends from San Fernando all flamenco ...maybe they moved or went underground .... or just got old ..like me

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 16:59:43

Nito

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Morante)

Cadiz:

Centro de arte flamenco la Merced

La perla de Cadiz

I went to Cadiz in June

Greetings,
Nito

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 17:25:49

Morante

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Nito)

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Cadiz:

Centro de arte flamenco la Merced

La perla de Cadiz

I went to Cadiz in June

If that is what you call flamenco, we have nothing in common. Tablao flamenco is of no interest to me.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 18:16:11

Nito

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Morante)

I'm Sorry Morante,

if you don't mind, I would like to know what is your interest regarding flamenco.

I think we have something in common. We are a minority...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2015 18:46:11

Anders Eliasson

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to mark74)

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I think its about to become more broke as the communist Podemos Party is taking over Andalucia

So, Mister Mc Carthy, did you forget to take your anti paranoia pills that we agreed on.

Politics in Spain these days is not about left - right, communist, fascist, whatever.
Its about corruption. And since the two old major political parties are extremely corrupt, then different things happen because people are really fed up with the bastards.

Besides that, I agree with Morante: this is not a political forum and IMO post like the above should be deleted by admin. Besides that, its 100% off topic.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 8 2015 20:21:24

Ricardo

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RE: regions in Spain where flamenco ... (in reply to Nito)

Took this in Madrid 2013... But visited again 2014. Close to plaza sol but don't recognize it by photos of the links. What is it called?
As for quality, it is a nice small intimate venue, acoustic only, in basement of a night club type place. Guitarist were mediocre, but singers were good Camaroneros. Dancers were ok, until the fantastic Juan Ramirez appeared last year, (by my good luck?), super high quality. Can't remember the price, I thought like 15E or something and a sangria type thing. Only place with a show on Sunday I thought, and just happened upon it walking off atocha toward Sol. Two shows per night, the pretty dancers stand outside on street handing out card/coupons...so I thought it was gonna be lame but it was not bad at all.

Ricardo