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RE: Sabicas 1939
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BarkellWH
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RE: Sabicas 1939 (in reply to Ricardo)
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yes. Manitas de Plata. Also amazingly "unique". C'mon, Ricardo. Carlos was a much better flamenco guitarist than Manitas. Actually, I don't begrudge Manitas, but in my opinion he was nowhere near the guitarist that Carlos was, in spite of Carlos's defects, which were largely self-imposed. Bill
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Date Mar. 19 2015 14:05:02
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BarkellWH
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RE: Sabicas 1939 (in reply to estebanana)
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Clearly however Carlos was far inferior to Sabicas because Carlos was never booked into the Jernigan Suite when he toured. This caused Carlos to lose sleep, be stressed out and to get sloppy when on stage because his American wife badgered him about the accommodations.... He also wanted to get rooted deep into the American counter culture and work with the Grateful Dead, which is also why he cultivated his sense of showmanship. This adds an interesting psychological twist to Carlos's style of playing. Having been denied access to the Jernigan Suite, where only the Heaven-Anointed are permitted entry, Carlos aspires to be a Dead Head. Failing at that as well, Carlos wants to play nothing but ligado and then smash his guitar on stage after each performance. Manitas, on the other hand, did not have to worry about either pleasing or offending an American wife. He had Brigitte Bardot as his primary audience, and she didn't give a damn whether he played in compas or not. Bill
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Date Mar. 19 2015 14:23:40
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Sabicas 1939 (in reply to estebanana)
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ORIGINAL: estebanana Well both really, his hand movement is so minimal it's hard to see on films what he was doing. The technique is so clean and precise it never fails to make me shake my head. Sabicas' music is not my top, but I would never discount him as one of the best of the best. I like some of his compositions better than Nino Ricardo's, but there something about Ricardos funkiness I like. But Sabicas' right hand seems to be the about as good as it gets. Someone wrote that Ramon Montoya would have been a great musician in whatever genre he happened to work, but Niño Ricardo had to be a flamenco guitarist. You could just about substitute Sabicas for Montoya, in my opinion. But Niño Ricard was flamenco through and through. And in his earlier days he was a technical monster as well, though not quite on the order of Sabicas. Having seen Sabicas up close and in person a fair amount, I was always amazed by the fluency and apparent effortlessness of his technique. He was never in a hurry, no matter how fast he might have been blasting away. And he was never pushing hard, no matter how much he was rattling the chandeliers. He got his volume by efficiency, not force. Or so it seemed. He probably could have cracked walnuts between the thumb and forefinger of either hand. His right hand strokes could have been like Bruce Lee´s one-inch punches. He could play from the New York club Zambra's 2 AM closing time until sunrise without ever setting the guitar down, fueled only by a couple shots of Spanish brandy per hour. RNJ
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Date Mar. 21 2015 4:51:37
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