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runner
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Joined: Dec. 5 2008
From: New Jersey USA
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 RE: Cultura (in reply to Escribano)
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To understand Andalucía would take a lifetime. Speaking a little Spanish is nice. Bullfighting is controversial. However none are prerequisites to appreciating flamenco, ser un aficionado, to be a fan. If they were, this would be a very, very quiet forum and it would a dead art.
Escribano
Thankfully, we can now objectively quantify one's degree of flamenquismo by use of a recently invented tool, the Flamencometer (patent pending). I was able to obtain a reading on a prototype of the machine (it requires the usual sensors attached to various members of the body), under the supervision of a skilled operator, and obtained a score of 93.7 out of a possible 100. It would be useful to subject all Foro participants to interrogation on the instrument, as it becomes more widely available, and to deny access to anyone self-reporting a figure below, say, 75. We thus eliminate, through scientific rigor, the unsubstantiated "I am more flamenco than you are!" crowing that crops up all too frequently here on the Foro--now we will have a way of establishing a true hierarchy of the less and the more flamenco. I offer this modest proposal to Admin.
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Date Mar. 20 2015 12:52:05
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Richard Jernigan
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Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Cultura (in reply to bicharraco)
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All this back and forth about language, culture and the like has finally reminded me of a story.
My English friend David J. and his wife Carol visited Austin. David had won an award from the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers for a paper he wrote. Part of the prize was a trip to New York to present the paper at the annual meeting. David was on the British side of a contract we had with the U.K. government, so they paid for the trip to Austin. He and his wife, my wife and I, all in our thirties had become good friends.
David wanted to see an American football game. The University of Texas puts on about as big a spectacle as there is in that line. But on the night of the game it was cold and raining hard. We sat around the house feeling sorry for ourselves and drinking whisky.
More in jest than in ernest, I said, "Well, Muddy Waters is playing Antone's tonight. We could go hear him."
To my surprise, Carol lit up and said, "Really! Muddy Waters is in town tonight? We could go see him?"
"Um, yes....to tell the truth, I didn't have you pegged as a Muddy Waters fan."
Carol, a beautiful blue eyed brunette in her early thirties, was a school teacher and the soul of proper English middle class decorum.
"Yes! When I was fourteen, after bedtime I would get under the covers with my torch and my little phonograph, listen to my Muddy Waters records and dream of running away to America. I loved Muddy Waters! Though perhaps I didn't completely understand all the songs."
"How about 'Louisiana Blues'?" I asked.
She quoted, "Going to Louisiana, behind the Sun....what does that mean?"
" 'Behind the Sun' means 'behind the sign of the Sun.' In New Orleans when the original city was laid out, most of the people were illiterate. Street signs and shop signs were symbols that were easy to recognize. In Merida, Yucatan the streets were all laid out on a grid and numbered rationally, but in the early sixties people still spoke of the calle del violín or la tienda de la oveja even though they could read the map perfectly. The shop behind the Sun in New Orleans sold voodoo articles and other magic paraphernalia."
"I see. Like the taverns called "The King's Head" or "Stonham Pie" with the magpie on the sign. So what's a mojo hand?"
"It's a little cloth bag containing magical objects. Spells are cast over it by a voodoo priest. It conveys occult powers to the owner."
We went to Antone's. Carol was one of the most ardent fans. When Muddy got the people up to dance, she was absolutely magnificent.
Now who was the greater aficionado? I, who understood the language and the cultural references, and who was surrounded by the blues from birth?
Or Carol, who may not have understood all the words, and who came to the music only as a teenager, but to whom the music spoke as a cry for freedom and rage against the perceived oppression of a proper middle class English girl during the beginning of the swinging sixties?
RNJ
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Date Mar. 21 2015 3:56:53
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Morante
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Joined: Nov. 21 2010
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RE: Cultura (in reply to Munin)
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His posts reek of deep insecurities harbored for decades. He spends a lot of energy pretending to be someone he is not and can never be. His frustrations of never being able to be perceived as or equal to a real Andalusian (socially as much as artistically)are then let out on the Foro.
 Falta de seguridad no es un problema de Morante.
Cuando salió de casa a la universidad formó un grupo de rock, lo que terminó tocando telonero a Cream.
Empezó a correr motos: en Irlanda los circuitos son carreteras normales, rodeadas de casas y arboles. Terminó corriendo en el Gran Premio de Dundrod, una ronda del Campeonato del Mundo, con una moto casera basada en Suzuki, contra la moto MV de fábrica de Giacomo Agostini.
Retirado, formó, con un amigo, La Peña Flamenca de Irlanda del Norte (http://www.paddyandersonflamenco.com/flamenco-factory/) la que sigue con mucho éxito.
También, estudiaba el arte de la pesca con Jack Martin, Campeon del Mundo, y consigió el diploma de Professor de la Pesca de Trucha y Salmón. Ha dado muchos cursos, incluso por la tele.
Entonces. decidió vivir en España donde ha producido 3 CDs y ha presentado el Jueves Flamencos de la Peña de Mellizo, el festival flamenco más importante del verano en Andalucía.
Falta de seguridad no es ningún problema de Morante, es un probléma de algunos socios de este foro de guitarra flamenca.
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Date Mar. 21 2015 15:37:55
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