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Morante

 

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David Palomar 

David has presented his new CD.

http://www.diariodecadiz.es/article/ocio/1936112/flamenco/con/denominacion/origen.html
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

And what do you think of it?

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RE: David Palomar (in reply to edguerin

quote:

And what do you think of it?


Bueno. David is a friend of mine, as is his wife Anabel and his cuñado Riki, who has just won a Goya. They are all very talented, all are capable of good flamenco, and David won major prizes in Cordoba.

But being able to do it and doing it are two different things and all of them have interests outside flamenco. Until now I do not consider David´s discos flamenco, but his father assures me that this one does contain flamenco. I have not bought it.
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

I haven't heard all of it yet, but I tend to agree: it does contain flamenco (and other stuff). I like the flamenco. The disco seems to have been recorded in different places, and the guitar on the 1st track "cuarenta novias" is unfortunately overamplified, distorted and cropped.. (or isn't that a bug but rather a feature? )

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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

I came across one of his videos recently



A Jeronimo Perez guitar being played.
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to tijeretamiel

incorrect, the guitar is Pena Vargas

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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

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But being able to do it and doing it are two different things and all of them have interests outside flamenco. Until now I do not consider David´s discos flamenco


It seems not many who are capable of it are making good recordings, perhaps flamenco is best experienced live anyway?

Por Seguiriyas live


Por Bulerias short film
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

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ORIGINAL: xirdneH_imiJ

incorrect, the guitar is Pena Vargas



Thanks for the correction!
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to orsonw

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It seems not many who are capable of it are making good recordings, perhaps flamenco is best experienced live anyway?


It is not hard to make good recordings: all you need is a cantaor, a tocaor, 2 palmeros, some friends, a bottle of manzanilla and two microphones in a decent studio.

Sadly today, nobody wants to record en directo: Protools offers separate recording tracks, a claqueta, and perfect editing, you can even move imprecise palmas to their "correct" position. Then, on other tracks you can add coros, violin, percussion etc, etc. This is what people want.

The CDs I produced of Juan Silva and José Millàn were both recorded en directo: in the soleá of Juan, the guitarist recorded a compás of 6. When I pointed it out, he was mortified, but Juan had to record the whole soleá again . With Protools, a little bit of editing and all is well.

But one way is music, the other way is not.
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

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But one way is music, the other way is not.


It would be okay to say "the recording isn't a live take", saying that it isn't music just doesn't make any sense. There are entire genres based on sampling and they are still music.
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

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quote:

And what do you think of it?


Bueno. David is a friend of mine........
Until now I do not consider David´s discos flamenco,........I have not bought it.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2015 21:43:33
 
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

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ORIGINAL: Morante

quote:



It seems not many who are capable of it are making good recordings, perhaps flamenco is best experienced live anyway?


It is not hard to make good recordings: all you need is a cantaor, a tocaor, 2 palmeros, some friends, a bottle of manzanilla and two microphones in a decent studio.

Sadly today, nobody wants to record en directo: Protools offers separate recording tracks, a claqueta, and perfect editing, you can even move imprecise palmas to their "correct" position. Then, on other tracks you can add coros, violin, percussion etc, etc. This is what people want.

The CDs I produced of Juan Silva and José Millàn were both recorded en directo: in the soleá of Juan, the guitarist recorded a compás of 6. When I pointed it out, he was mortified, but Juan had to record the whole soleá again . With Protools, a little bit of editing and all is well.

But one way is music, the other way is not.


I also opted to do a live CD with my friend who is a singer...it just makes more sense for cante.

I am curious as to why he was so "mortified"....I have always wondered why the evolution of bulerias allows it but solea or buleria por solea don't....even after the old maestros did it on occasion (Ramon Montoya and Mojama for example). Why would a singer really care?

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RE: David Palomar (in reply to orsonw

Indeed—I saw David Palomar live last year and thoroughly enjoyed the show.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2015 13:55:54
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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

Thanks for the news
I bought a couple of his CD's - more for the playing of Rafael Rodriquez - not a lot of his playing recorded - seems to be either Palomar or Jose Anillo - preferring the latter for my listening
The addition of Jose Quevedo is a bonus
The earlier Palomar recordings had some great moments but the produced numbers left me a bit cold -
Be good to add a review as soon as someone buys it

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RE: David Palomar (in reply to Morante

Well, here's my partial review (for what it's worth).
Of the 13 tracks 6 are "flamenco" to my ear, the rest are either more coplas/canciones or are spoiled by coro, which I don't like.
David's voz facil is agreeable and he brings a certain freshness to the
soléa "A Ramón Jarana", the seguiriyas "Ceniza y fuego", and the minera "Mi Caí no tiene minas". The "Bulerias del Duende" are interesting, in as much as it is mostly a palo seco and the "Fandangos de Palomar" are quite pleasing. There's "De fiesta con Mariana" as an extra bonus, an unpublished track with Mariana Cornejo.
All in all, I enjoy listening to David's singing, although I do prefer slightly rougher, rajo voices and more quejío.

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