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Couldn't post in the off topic? Who cares about the royals and what good do they do to the suffering spanish people? Just not a big fan of the royals... Seem to be more like TV celebrities these days
Morante just wants attention, like a 5 year old boy. Or can someone explain me why he posts always in (sometimes even wrong) spanish? He knows the mayority don't understand.
I had the idea of a section for spanish speakers and those who would like to learn. What do you think?
Don't you think that you're gonna struggle to get flamenco essence if you do not appreciate el Rey? Somehow it's like to eat churros with cafe con leche and other hobbies. That's part of the cultural mood.
I heard a letra por bule that talked about el rey de los Borbones. I do not remember well, it's something like "de los arboles frutales me gusta mas el melocoton y de los reyes de espana me gusta mas el Borbon"...
Otherwise you also have the Church. We cannot talk about religion but like Chano said : "vamonos pa' Roma, ke el Padre Santo es muy bueno y a los flamencos perdona". That's a cultural thing. Like it or not
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"The most important part of Flamenco is not in knowing how to interpret it. The higher art is in knowing how to listen." (Luis Agujetas)
probaly the other way around ...especially in Andalucia ...Franco got the Royals back in power ,it was changing to be a republic ., and all the spanish civil war stuff went off ... The Andalucians werent singing about him thats for sure, and the cities of Cadiz , Cordoba and Seville in particular had a lot of problems fighting against the right wing ...but strangely not Malaga , they couldnt quite get started for some reason ....
I have a lot of freinds in a village just outside of Cordoba who had there parents lined up in a plaza and shot ..one day they showed me where as we were talking about it ,...I dont think they are great fans of the new or old king of Spain ............
@mezzo not the first time, i read stuff like that. You don't have to like everything what's spanish. I don't have to like the bullfight, the royals, football etc. But I have to respect people if they're liking it. I met a lot of good artists who have different opinions It's kind of disrespectful to say everyone has the same opinion about the same topic, just because he's spanish. Some jerezanos are sometimes more german than me hehe. I don't understand those categories. What is spanish? PS: People who just liking everything are pretty boring.. And of course not very flamenco. Where's the passion,when there's no hate
yes inspiration. to live the flamenco-way is important. But i don't have to pick up every little detail. To be calm and funny is more important than to like the royals. One time I read something like the problems on this foro are mostly due to "an influx of younger peopler without social skills" THIS is not flamenco. It's pretentious and uptight. Playing flamenco-guitar in the midlife crisis: not flamenco as well. The first thing to do is to calm down a bit and to loose the stick. No offense..
I don't have to like the bullfight, the royals, football etc. But I have to respect people if they're liking it. I met a lot of good artists who have different opinions
Ah, cultural relativism.
You may feel you have to respect people if they're liking it; I do not. It’s not the same as I like Beethoven, you like Bach: fellow-creatures are being deliberately tormented.
Sanche de Gramont writes about a mediæval French city that bought a convicted criminal from another city so they could have fun torturing him in public. Do you respect those people?
‘Even the more modest claim that history should teach “mutual respect” for different cultures is suspect. There is much in the history of all peoples that does not deserve respect. How much in which peoples’ histories is a very large question that no one can answer for others with different values. More fundamentally, respect is earned, not conferred. It is not a door prize. Equal respect is a contradiction in terms, since the very concept of respect implies an inequality of esteem and regard. All may be entitled to common decency but not all can receive a higher relative ranking.’
Agreed. There are expectations. Like torturing. You can't "discuss" about torturing. Slavoj Zizek has some interesting points about that. I do not respect everything because it is so called part of the culture. Like Guantanamo.