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henrym3483

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cante and toque together 

does anyone here on this board practice cante and toque together for flamecno, y'know kinda like a any other type of muscians.

i understand cante is difficult but is it really necessary to cut the two from each other?
is there a reason for such specialisation in the flamenco world, ie social hierarchy, etc.
or has it always been like this.
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Florian

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

Hi, i am not sure that i understand the question, do you mean like does anyone here reherse with a singer ?

Or does anyone here play and sing at the same time ?

sorry if its just me

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henrym3483

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to Florian

yeah singing and playing at the same time.like a solo artist.
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duende

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

i do a lot of singing with my stereo. (when im sure nobodys listening!! )
sometimes i play a-long with my guitar, sometimes i sing along. when i can´t sing a phrase
i stop and repeat it untill i have the basic idea how it goes. I also do palmas trying to place it rythmicaly while singing or huming.

I do it cause i want to be a better guitarist. and i want to improve my feeling of the compas

The mystarie to me is how people can start to clapp the compas in the middle of a martinete phrase!?! It must mean that they hear the rythm inside that ayyayyaaay...and i can´t
thats why i sing to the stereo..silly huh

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 13 2005 13:53:45
 
Florian

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

Oh, well not me, because i cant sing , well not in front of people anyway, but i am sure theres pple out there who do it, there is a guy in Melbourne named Manolo who about 15 years ago back was one of the top guitarist in Australia, from what i hear he mostly sings now but he has had to accompany himself on a few ocassions, i imagine that you can only do 1 at the time really good because both arts demand so much concentration.

I imagine that when he did accompany himself it would have to be very very minimalistic, chords and very simple falsetas if.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 13 2005 13:58:11
 
Kate

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

Camerón could sing and accompany himself. I have seen a few guitarists here in Spain who accompany themselves, Antonio Campos, El Pollito to name two and I am sure there are more.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 13 2005 15:19:57
 
duende

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to Florian

i´ve seen a video of Diego Carrasso play and sing. por solea i think it was

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

It's probably easier for some palos than others.

I wonder if a cantaor who accompanies himself complains about the guitarist cutting in on the note.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 13 2005 21:35:14
 
Jon Boyes

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

I'd be more intrigued by the prospect of dancers accompanying themselves

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Skai

 

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RE: cante and toque together (in reply to henrym3483

Dancing and accompanying? That sounds like some Mexican guy with a hat, where he sings, dances and plays all at the same time.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 15 2005 10:16:31
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