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RE: Richard and other thinkers
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Richard Jernigan
Posts: 3435
Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Richard and other thinkers (in reply to Ricardo)
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I guess it {Orion}remains science fiction until we achieve it, but at least it doesn't violate physics we know. I was thinking some of the main work to be done was in the area of materials. The stuff I developed to defeat Soviet defenses had to survive the effects of a Soviet nuclear attack on the incoming missiles. But this was from a high-yield weapon miles away. The major damage mechanism was a really nasty dose of gamma rays. Not only could this wreck the special silicon-on-sapphire electronics used in intercontinental missiles, it could vaporize exposed surfaces and damage structures from the resulting shock. We did a lot of material modeling using codes developed at Los Alamos, and a lot of underground testing in Nevada. The underground test setup had the bomb in a chamber, the test samples in tunnels radiating away from the bomb. Between the bomb and the samples were blast doors that shut after the radiation burst started down the tunnels, but before much of the material debris got out of the chamber. The blast doors themselves were fairly fancy engineering, with thick steel skins and internal construction out of layers of ceramic and stuff. Once the samples were retrieved, the whole thing was abandoned. You can still see the craters where the ground caved in above each of the bomb chambers. The people who retrieved the samples out of the tunnels didn't go near the blast doors--too radioactive, so we don't know much about the effects of a nearby nuclear explosion on the stuff the doors were made out of. But most of the time they survived a single explosion well enough to keep the samples from getting wiped out by the blast. Of course there were those rare times when the blast doors failed to work right. The tunnels were a big mess when this happened. You could see the underground TV cameras get wiped out. We just left the whole thing alone when that happened, and started getting ready for the next test. As far as I know, we are still pretty much ignorant about the effects of a series of nearby nuclear explosions on materials we hope would survive. Since computers are a lot more capable now than when I was working on this stuff, we ought to be able to do more simulation. But simulations are no good without test data to verify them. We had to revise our models more than once when tests revealed effects we hadn't thought of. When I was thinking of the work to be done to get Orion working, I was thinking of a lot of materials and assembly testing, with fairly low yield nuclear devices going off in close proximity to some pretty expensive toys. Still not saying it couldn't be done. Just a lot of work left to be done to make it "current technology." And maybe a few revolting developments along the way. RNJ
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