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turnermoran
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Anyone here a fan of that show "Lost"? or "Twin Peaks"? Where if you watched from the beginning, you got sucked in, but if you tried to enter mid series, you had no idea what was going on? Lately, it feels like the Foro is like that. Constant references to 'so-an-so who already discussed that..', and the Ruben 'arc', and 'Normal can tell you all about that'...Guys with thousands of posts to their names. The search function seems less and less useable, since there's so much content, you have to be rediculously specific to get the results now. Pretty amazing. I'm kicking myself I didn't find this foro earlier, and I've been aware of it for many years now. I find myself wishing there were an index to great threads for the aspiring guitarist. In recent years I've gotten exposed to more baile and cante, and would like to better use the resources on the Foro to make sense of it all. A couple personal faves: Cante Accomaniment Thread (Gold!) Jason breaking down entire cante accomp. of palos libres in a paragraph (Mineira, Taranto, etc) Norman's (and others) encyclopedic knowledge of cante letras. As much as I like arguing about music business as the next guy, it's the threads about the mysteries of flamenco that are so valuable. Has anyone tried to make a thread that's like, "top 5 (10?) most influential Foro threads for improving your knowledge?"
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Date Mar. 19 2013 5:53:17
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turnermoran
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RE: Foro=Lost (in reply to turnermoran)
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Around the new year, someone did a retrospective 'best of the Foro' type post. I provide a link now, but I searched and I can't find it. It would be cool if along with the other categories like General, Lutherie, etc, there were a reddit type category where the 5 thickest threads be listed. Or maybe rather than something dynamic like that, there could be a top 10 threads to read for someone new to the Foro so that if you wanted to be on the same page about what many people here discuss(ed) you would have a reference. Sometimes that would be even just a figure out the in jokes. :) As in: Picado - proceed at your own risk Cante Accomp - ya-ya-yai-yai, tri-tri-to-tran-tran and other classic poems Baile Accomp - to love them is to hate them Conde Hermanos - airing M-F @ 2pm, just after The Bold and The Beautiful, and before General Hospital How to get kicked off the Foro - Jason, Cory, animated videos, and Ruben; He who cannot be named, and the thread that cannot be read ;)
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Date Mar. 19 2013 14:49:45
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Ricardo
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RE: Foro=Lost (in reply to turnermoran)
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ORIGINAL: turnermoran R - you're definitely right here. I myself have benefited from fingernail, picado and similar threads. I was just thinking that an index of popular or frequently referenced threads would make them visible to new users and save veterans from having to provide links to old threads. THere are already "stickies" of course. Some of the popular topics that degenerated into personal attacks and locked wouldn't look so pretty as "stickies" I would think, but might be a good idea anyway so people understand how to not accidentally "troll" old sensitive issues. Certainly some stickies in the luthier section would be helpful...cheap guitars, woods, builds plans/soundports or guitars of famous players, guitar care/repairs etc could be consolidated so the main luthier guys don't get so annoyed. Anyway, a couple that I would promote to stickies would include the cante accomp. thread, and a couple others, one about solea elastic compas and solea vs solea por buleria were interesting (saddly Romerito deleted comments which were important to the discussions grrrrr), nails with photos, etc, but that would be ME personally. Its up to escribano really, and I am sure he is too busy unless you want to suggest to him via PM he could check the links recommended and decide if any are worth to make permanent up top. The more there are, the more we have to scroll down for new topics remember. I honestly I am fine with addressing new people on the same old topic vs digging through the old stuff and trying to find the best example of stickies. Cante Accomp thread is the only exception.
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Date Mar. 21 2013 15:58:27
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z6
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RE: Foro=Lost (in reply to estebanana)
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Ricardo got there before me. If you happen to have happened upon a fingernail shape that acually allows you to play actual picado then you are lucky. I could not, and I had tried, intermitently, but with serious discipline and intent to get 'a' picado for a long time. Now it's sorted and I can. It is a revelation. I have found that I must be 'ripe' (sounds smelly) to learn something. Ricardo's posts on fingernails are about the most important words I have ever manged to understand in such a way as to actually 'get it'. And the role of the thumb. And not leaning my arm on the guitar. The metronome. So many things I see people scoff at, sometimes. Shaping then glue. It is magic. A revelation indeed. I have heard people talk a lot about picado here and I have read every word that I can because, for me, not having 'a' picado means I can't play. I wouldn't suggest anyone else think something so apparently childish, but I found out, after more than thirty years of playing, that I really can play after all. My stupid nails were in the way. They never stopped me playing Barrios or Bach, but the dreaded classical 'stiffness' always held me back. There are some other threads out there now that interest me. Classical versus flamenco: They look so similar how could one explain that, to me, playing flamenco is exactly like playing electric blues guitar; exactly. I was not Clapton but what I did was 'easy'. Nail shape makes it easy. Classical, to me, feels like 'the opposite' of flamenco. Action, action, action. I can hear the groans but Ricardo has contributed such explicit, clear, instructions on how to do it while having massive fun. Others help along. Erik is almost psychotically generous with his hard-won knowldge. The real biggies, for me are the technical threads. There was one on cante a while back that was a revelation (to me). Again, Ricardo put the actual (guitar) player's perspective with ice-cold logic, and humour. And clever people were trying to put a false perspective on it, but his logic and honesty cut through. This important, fundamental stuff. And who could not wonder at Richard's beautifully crafted accounts of life or physics or engineering, or anything. Then there's the luthiers. Those guys are all bonkers. If you think this place is lost try asking Anders.... well anything really. Estebanana makes craics that have me snorting in public for days. Lost? One thing: None of my business and no idea why it is the case but I expect there were reasons but I've read over a lot of Jason Mcguire's posts and It is so hard to believe that he cannot come here; unless it's through choice? I can't imagine Delcamp not letting David Russel have his say. In particular, the effort he put into explaining harmoic ideas was astonishing, and very helpful. This place is certainly lessened by the loss of Ron, but there are plenty of people carrying on in his tradition. Then you have all the wonderful music. When I tried to learn flamenco years ago there was nothing. Only Juan Martin and me thinking; "This is a good book but he can't play picado. What chance have I got?" I'm saying that, while I love all the threads that are truly significant to me, I cannot know which threads they will be until ai read through them. Stickies are a good idea, but getting lost here is sometimes the best way to find answers to questions you weren't aware you were asking. I'm off to jam with that infernal contraption, Dr. Compas.
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Date Mar. 22 2013 17:53:30
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