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El Burdo

 

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Electroacoustic plans 

This probably isn't the right section but then neither are any of the others so here goes...

Has anyone made a nylon electroacoustic? And if so, are there any plans available? I haven't been able to find any. I'm thinking of a rel. narrow body to reduce feedback, some LR Baggs p/us maybe. It's for gigging Bossa Nova type music. It seems unlikely that just making a narrow bodied nylon acoustic would be the answer. I like the Godin, but it needn't be quite so 'electric'.

Thanks.
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Morante

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

Buy a Veracruz, shallow body, Fishman electrics, sound great amplified. Mine cost me 300 euros.
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El Burdo

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to Morante

I might do in the end, but I think I could make a reasonable guitar...if I knew what to do. It looks like electroacoustic nylons have fan bracing and solid spruce/cedar tops. I'd prefer rosewood back and sides instead of the common mahogany as well. Making a truncated classical doesn't seem a good bet.
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Leñador

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

Build this:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-YAM-SLG100N

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El Burdo

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to Leñador

Dunno..the bracing looks a little flimsy
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Jeff Highland

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

I just add K and K pure classic pickups under the soundboard and a tailpin jack.
Passive with a decent output so no need for batteries and preamps in the guitar.
Sounds pretty damn good to me.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 31 2013 20:47:21
 
El Burdo

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to Jeff Highland

Hi Jeff - Is that normal dimensions? Not a shallower body?

I fancy a thinner bodied instrument - like a George Benson is to a 175.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 31 2013 21:24:19
 
Jeff Highland

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

That is with standard instruments, though it would work well with a shallow bodied instrument too,
I'm really not too keen on the sound of most undersaddle pickups I have encountered. I have had a couple of customers that I have replaced the undersaddles with K&K 's for them and both they and I have been impressed by the results
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El Burdo

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to Jeff Highland

Right. My problem is with all the other implications of building a thinner body - a chart would be useful.
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Anders Eliasson

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

quote:

I'm really not too keen on the sound of most undersaddle pickups I have encountered.


I strongly dislike the sound of undersaddle pickups. The sound and the dynamics. Its just all wrong.
I cant se why you should change anything else but the body debth if you want a shallow body guitar. But since I´ve never built one, take my thoughts as what they are... Mental speculation with no real experience behing. (A very common sport here.)

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El Burdo

 

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to Anders Eliasson

That's the thing about 'authority' though isn't it? Confidence in delivering speculation.
I think the Ovation nylon ('Country Classic' maybe) used an X-brace, so I wondered if there was a wholesale re-jig going on. I'd still be playing that were it not for the REALLY over-powering smell of wood from the soundhole. It was strange, like the ghost of the wood trying to escape from the instrument.
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Sean

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RE: Electroacoustic plans (in reply to El Burdo

Takamine makes some electroacoustic nylon guitars. Going back a few years, I remember them getting good reviews. They had 14 fret to the body 24 fret access cutaway tube pre amps or something. There was a band from Texas that used them; almost gave me the notion to try building something similar.
To many mixed reviews of the different electronics available, put that thought out of my head.

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