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Converting steel string peg-tuners to Nylon-string Pegs
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cbecker78
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Joined: May 18 2012
From: Texas
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RE: Converting steel string peg-tune... (in reply to cbecker78)
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Ok guys... Thanks a lot for... not answering my question? I suspose Keith at least gave me a brand to start looking for. Maybe my non-chalant attitude gave the wrong impression. I don't know. I don't have any idea why TANunez would be so arrogant to assert that he knows exactly what I am intending without even asking me. That is not how conversations work. Do all of you have the information I want but have decided not to give it to me because you understand that I lack the knowledge to make careful decisions for myself? What if I were an actual physical artist and was working on a commisioned piece that fused the american history of a dreadnaught with the spanish history of a flamenco guitar. Would that make a difference? Help me understand here gentleman. And Keith, thanks for the suggestion that I donate the guitar. That is a lovely idea, and if it looks like my current intentions are going to be too much trouble, maybe I will donate it to the trash. It currently it needs frets replaced, the neck is warped, the bridge is split - it is not playable and it would be cheaper for me to buy a new guitar and give that new guitar to someone in need than it would be to restore this one as a workable steel string. Fwiw, the "dr frankenstein" crack may be appropriate. I am an experimental scientist and work full time in a Laboratory. And I do look at this as an experiment. One that I hope I have time to follow through with. In summary: I asked my mother, and she said it was ok if I tried to find tuning pegs. What!?! Oh yeah, that's right. Tuning pegs. That is what this thread was about. P.S. - I'm not entirely sure I intend to come off as contrary as I may be sounding. I'll confess that I have not finished my first cup of coffee yet. but I am going to hit submit because I have some work I need to do this morning. In retrospect, I suppose any conversation is better than no conversation. So thanks for sticking with me. (and when you all see a new thread pop up entitled "best inexpensive tuning pegs for a vintage flamenco guitar"- just pretend like you never saw this one. K? Nah, now I'm just teasin')
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Date Sep. 15 2012 13:59:35
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cbecker78
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From: Texas
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RE: Converting steel string peg-tune... (in reply to TANúñez)
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ORIGINAL: TANúñez I didn't come to any conlusions. I know exactly what your wanting to do and it's a bad idea. Your missing the point. The steel string guitar is built for high tension. Much higher than what you have in a nylon string guitar. The nut,saddle and fingerboard may be way to narrow for nylon strings. The end may be s crappy sounding guitar. It's going to be hard to find the tuners your looking for because they may not be made due to it begin a bad idea to even do this. Just trying to help you save money, time and a guitar. Hi TANúñez. You definitely came to conclusions. But we don't have to argue over that. If you really are just trying to help, I appoligize for my earlier comment. You raise a lot of valid points. Most of which I have considered previously. My reasons are fairly complex. The neck is bent straight (maybe a little back) causing string buzz. the truss rod was left tight ten years ago when the strings came off last. Adjusting the truss rod does not work. The nut that I see just spins. I do not want to try to remove the fingerboard to fix that. I sanded a taller plastic saddle and put some of those nylon strings on it that have the ball ends. For a 20 year old all laminate guitar built for nylon strings, it didn't sound too bad. Definitely muted, but ok if you are thinking of amped playing. The neck will definitely be too narrow for flamenco or classical guitar, but you can find a number of "crossover" guitars with this size neck and nylon strings that are marketed to electric players wanting to crossover to acoustice, and to acoustic players wanting to cross over to classicical for "that smooth nylon sound" or some such. I also have to replace the bridge because it is cracked. I'm more confident I can get the new one to stick with tensions of a nylon strings. But I am concerned it will be difficult to find a classical bridge with proper spacing for the neck. I am thinking I can find one for a 3/4 or 1/2 size classical though that might work. So as it is, it has little value. Looking at the market locally, it might hold some as a "customized vintage dreadnought classical hybrid" or something. Or it might not. It is also my first guitar that I purchased. A Bently. I started restoring it properly 10 years ago, until I discovered during sanding that someone had taken great efforts to carefully paint wood grains across the sound hole. But I still want to do something with it. I especially want to use it as a practice pad for a french polish to make sure I don't mess up the wodden classical that I am preparing to refinish. And if I take the time to try and make a nice finish on this guitar, I want to take the time to "try" to do something creative with it. If it is a failure, that is ok with me. Its just me and my old guitar having one more adventure. Maybe when I'm done, It'll be great and someone else will enjoy the Frankensteinian mess that I've made of it. Or maybe it will actually go back to the trash/yard-sale pile. Ok, I really have to go. I wanted to write this first and appologize for calling you arrogant earlier. I was being immature and unfair. I am sorry.
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Date Sep. 15 2012 14:32:41
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